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re: Women should not have the right to vote

Posted on 10/14/17 at 10:48 pm to
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 10:48 pm to
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'm a woman and I agree. Id trade my right to vote for the promise that a dem-prog would never hold elected office again,ever.


I'd let you vote given the choice

The truth is that I don't think that men are really fit for voting either. But don't tell anyone I said that
This post was edited on 10/14/17 at 10:50 pm
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 10:50 pm to
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Voter suppression applies to everyone. Duh.


I support 100% voter suppression.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6354 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 10:53 pm to
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Rights aren't granted by documents. If something is a "right" then it is not arbitrarily defined by people who work in government. The same idiotic logic that determines that an 18 year old has the "right" vote in an election (assuming they've jumped through all the hoops) is the same logic I can use to deny that women should have the "right" to vote in an election.

The harder you argue that voting is a right granted by some magical document signed by a bunch of people who are not me, the easier it is for me to justify my stance that women shouldn't have the right.

The "right" to vote has never been a constant. Which makes it more of a privilege than anything else.


Lol ok. Then by your definition there are zero rights.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 10:54 pm to
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Lol ok. Then by your definition there are zero rights.



False.

The only legitimate and defensible rights are property rights. First and foremost, the right of self ownership.
This post was edited on 10/14/17 at 10:55 pm
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Gulf Shores
Member since Nov 2013
7239 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:00 pm to
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I'd let you vote given the choice


Imagine how awesome it would be if idiots and crazy people weren't allowed to vote.

The "muh girl-penis!!!!111!!!!1" and "everything should be free,serious you guys!" folks would be totally silenced.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:03 pm to
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Imagine how awesome it would be if idiots and crazy people weren't allowed to vote.

The "muh girl-penis!!!!111!!!!1" and "everything should be free,serious you guys!" folks would be totally silenced.


Yep. If they were simply crazy and not crazy + capable of voting for policies that impact everyone else, we wouldn't even care. Unfortunately they are capable of doing severe damage. Dumb.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6354 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:06 pm to
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The only legitimate and defensible rights are property rights. First and foremost, the right of self ownership.
Not really, not by your definition. Slavery was abolished using the same method that grants the right to vote.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Gulf Shores
Member since Nov 2013
7239 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:07 pm to
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Unfortunately they are capable of doing severe damage. Dumb.


Yep. It's really very disturbing.

Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:10 pm to
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Not really, not by your definition.


Wut?

quote:

Slavery was abolished using the same method that grants the right to vote.





And how was slavery established?

By that same method.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:12 pm to
Obviously, if the right of self ownership were actually observed, we wouldn't be talking about slavery to begin with.

Just thought I'd point that out...
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6354 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:26 pm to
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And how was slavery abolished?

By that same method.
You know, Mr. Troll. By amending the constitution.
This post was edited on 10/14/17 at 11:39 pm
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6354 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:27 pm to
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Obviously, if the right of self ownership were actually observed, we wouldn't be talking about slavery to begin with.


if the right to vote were actually observed, we wouldn't be talking about voting rights to begin with. You've got to troll harder.
This post was edited on 10/14/17 at 11:30 pm
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:38 pm to
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You know, Mr. Troll. By amending the constitution


My lerd.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6354 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:39 pm to
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My lerd.
I know.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:51 am to
They vote more reasonably than another prominent block that likes to vote 90+% for one side over the other. There's clearly something off...
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:00 am to
My wife doesn’t think women should be allowed to vote. Her basis is that they don’t keep up with things and vote based on stupid shite.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
32259 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:06 am to
Yeah, we really fricked up in 1919
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:09 am to
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Women should not have the right to vote




Shouldn't be driving either.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49762 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 4:49 am to
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Women should not have the right to vote


Been saying this forever - without the emotional input that women's vote brings out, we would still have a decent, moral, responsible, efficient form of governance. Throw in the "tug the heartstrings" element and we get the equivalent of High School "Cutest Boy" elections to real leadership positions.

For every sensible woman voter there are a half dozen 'super market tabloid' voters.

Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 8:55 am to
I agree with him. Only landowners should be allowed to vote.
This post was edited on 10/15/17 at 8:58 am
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