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Will Hydroxychloroquine be available without a prescription?

Posted on 3/19/20 at 5:44 am
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 5:44 am
Is it already?
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 5:49 am to
No. But right to fight legislation should clearly allow folks who have Coronavirus obtain it.
This post was edited on 3/19/20 at 5:50 am
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27953 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 5:54 am to
Here's what I see as worrisome: Some doctors might be hesitant to prescribe it, until many studies are done, and the FDA has signed off on it, for this specific application. Too much liability involved.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17031 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 6:01 am to
It isn't a cure all. The studies so far have been poor quality. Not placebo controlled. Not double blinded. FDA will require both placebo and double blinded studies and will require MORE than one study (they like to have 2 high quality studies before they approve drugs).

And these trials are usually expensive. Drug companies spend many millions for one study alone and it is doubtful any such company will sponsor a trial of choroquine for this purpose (no profit in a generic drug). However, this is an emergency and I could see them sponsoring it pro bono which would be the right thing to do.

All that said, the data are so far promising. So far, chloroquine is showing a 70% cure rate when used alone and a 100% cure rate when used in conjunction with certain antibiotics. Even so, one patient in the study died during treatment and 3 others dropped out because they had to go to ICU.

This is why you should be skeptical of the "100% cure" hype. It most certainly is bogus. Wait for real clinical trials with larger sample sizes. Of course, time is of the essence here, so we'll see how fast they can put together high quality studies.

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Some doctors might be hesitant to prescribe it, until many studies are done


Bingo. No FDA approval will hurt too. This is why FDA will likely "fast track" an approval at some point. We just need at least one decent study that has the proper controls in place. The one in France published yesterday with neither blinded nor placebo controlled.
This post was edited on 3/19/20 at 6:06 am
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
5590 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 6:03 am to
Can y’all wait till we get our checks?
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 6:09 am to
quote:

by redneck hippie
Can y’all wait till we get our checks?


^^^ Precisely what it’s all about

The politicians will have to all get their share of the stimulus until the cure can be exposed most likely
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14947 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 6:09 am to
Questions: what are the risks of the drug? Another thread suggested that it was similar and/or not much different from aspirin or ibuprofen.

What would the downsides be- e.g.- would it mask symptoms without reduction in contagiousness and/or create opportunity for a more severe relapse?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27953 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 6:10 am to
If the drug has been in use for years, and has been deemed safe. IMO it should be made available OTC. Let people decide for themselves. We're not talking about a narcotic here.

We need to get something happening fast.
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 6:13 am to
I’ll know by 9am when pharmacy opens
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17031 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 6:16 am to
quote:

Questions: what are the risks of the drug?


A PT doc or pharmacist can answer better than I. But one guy dropped out of the French study because of severe nausea. A quick google search shows the following side-effects:

quote:

Blurred vision, nausea, vomiting, abdominal cramps, headache, and diarrhea may occur. If any of these effects persist or worsen, tell your doctor or pharmacist promptly.


There are some more severe, but more rare, side-effects as well (which is common with most every drug).
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21792 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 6:20 am to
quote:

Blurred vision, nausea, vomiting, abdominal cramps, headache, and diarrhea may occur. If any of these effects persist or worsen, tell your doctor or pharmacist promptly


Sounds like the effects of COVID and being sick anyways
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7492 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 6:25 am to
It's not like this is a brand new drug though. Been around since the 50's. Has been studied and it is FDA approved for Malaria
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 6:27 am to
Absolutely not. We don’t need all you idiots buying it all up.

You fricking people can’t be trusted with toilet paper and you want to be able to just buy one of the few drugs that might work against this virus?

Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 6:28 am to
Please stop using hydroxcholorquine sulfate and chloroquine phosphate interchangeably. These are two different medicines. They are typically prescribed for different reasons. If you are looking at a news report or scientific study, please make sure which of the two it is referring to. Thanks.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 6:31 am to
quote:

Some doctors might be hesitant to prescribe it,


Times like these are when I’m glad I can walk in the back door of our local mom & pop pharmacy and tell my man what I need.

Also, I went to one website that said it was unscheduled. Are y’all sure it even needs a script?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27953 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 6:31 am to
quote:

Absolutely not. We don’t need all you idiots buying it all up. You fricking people can’t be trusted with toilet paper and you want to be able to just buy one of the few drugs that might work against this virus?


frick you bitch. I didn't buy up toilet paper, or anything else. Limits could be placed on the drug.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 6:32 am to
Nope sorry, eat a dick. You’ll cough once and go buy it for everyone in your house.

Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 6:33 am to
Unscheduled just means it’s not a controlled substance like Xanax.

It’s still a legend drug which means it needs an Rx
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27953 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 6:35 am to
You stupid frick, I will just come take yours.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 6:40 am to
We'll have to make tp prescriptions only after this
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