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re: Why were air defense missiles pointed at Poland in the first place?

Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:21 am to
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:21 am to
It’s not like he hasn’t received a missile or two before
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:23 am to
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My concern is his unwillingness to admit to having made a mistake


Maybe, juuuuuuust maybe he's a liar....
Posted by Texaggie96
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:33 am to
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I THINK that most of these counter-missiles are fired from BEHIND the cruise missile target and then home-in on the heat signature of the cruise missile. Assume that a Russian missile is fired from the vicinity of Kursk or Rostov. It crosses Ukraine, headed westward for L'viv. As it nears L'viv, a counter missile is fired at it (from behind). If the counter missile HITS the cruise missile, debris from BOTH continue westward and may well land in Poland. If the counter missile MISSES the cruise missile, the counter missile continues westward and may well land in Poland. It MAY be possible to hit and destroy that Rostov-to-L'viv cruise missile if you fire your counter missile head-on or from either the north or the south (each of which would be less likely to pepper Poland), but I think that your chances of actually HITTING the cruise missile and saving lives in L'viv is MUCH lower using that trajectory.


Air defense SAM's don't typically use infrared guidance for the obvious reason you mentioned. The best aspect ratio to attack from is the rear quarter which isn't ideal for a system designed to prevent you from getting hit (and also leaves the air defense system itself vulnerable to strike).

Usually you find Infrared on AAM's.

I highly doubt these are coming from Kursk or Rostov either. Russia has been using the Tupolev bombers to launch Kh-101 and 555 cruise missiles from Belarussian airspace (for obvious reasons of reduced transit time and less air defenses to pass through).

A battery positioned around Lviv which shot at one though could easily land in Poland (Assume firing in a NNW or NW angle)
Posted by Texaggie96
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:45 am to
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but (thus far) Russia does not seem to be firing missiles from Belarus.


Eh?

They've been launching them from Belarus for a while. It's how they hit western Ukraine in the first place back when the killed that volunteer Battallion in the early days of the war over in Lviv.

LINK

Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 12:18 pm to
Interesting. Contrary to some of what I recall seeing early in the war, but it certainly makes sense. Thx
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:10 pm to
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Air defense SAM's don't typically use infrared guidance for the obvious reason you mentioned. The best aspect ratio to attack from is the rear quarter which isn't ideal for a system designed to prevent you from getting hit (and also leaves the air defense system itself vulnerable to strike).


Exactly, if you are sending a missile in the same trajectory and miss, you actually hit the site the original missile was targeting


Which refers back to the original post, they have sent hundreds up in air defense, how did this one magically end up in Poland???
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