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Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:02 pm to
Administrations with the largest tax cuts in history:
-Coolidge
-Kennedy
-Reagan
-Bush II

During each of these administrations the government took in more tax revenue than any other administration before them.

As for "the rich," higher-income taxpayers paid more — repeat, MORE tax revenues into the federal treasury under the lower tax rates than they had under the previous higher tax rates. All this happened under these administrations.

Major deficits are caused by unchecked spending from entitlement programs, wars, etc.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16726 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:05 pm to
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Tax cuts create a hole in the governments income. Less money coming in = less money in the federal reserve


Yep. The government just went on an income diet. Time for that fat broad to start losing some weight.
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Bison
Truth or Consequences
Member since Dec 2016
1236 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:06 pm to
You dumbass. They were to end the recession you dipshit so we didn’t enter another Great Depression bc of George Bush’s spending on war plus his tax cuts. Now that the economy is stable and the unemployment is at an all time low , y’all want to shot our selves in the foot again and increase the deficit again by creating creating permanent tax cut for corporations
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29438 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:08 pm to
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Maybe because that are trying to rush it through without hearing from economists or any other experts.. 
You mean like the lying hack Paul Krugman?

No thanks.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:12 pm to
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Tax cuts create a hole in the governments income. Less money coming in = less money in the federal reserve


Then maybe the government should have some kind of budget so they don’t over spend? Or maybe redundant, outdated or otherwise inefficient government agencies should be cut in order to make up for less tax money coming in.

I have to live on a budget, why dowsnt the fed government
Posted by Bison
Truth or Consequences
Member since Dec 2016
1236 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:13 pm to
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by unchecked spending from entitlement programs, wars, etc.


No shite! You don’t have to explain to me that BUSH turned a 5 trillion dollar surplus from Clinton to deficit of 6 trillion and left it to Obama’s. You don’t have to explain that to me . I fricking know it was bushes unchecked spending and TAX CUTS that put us where we are
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Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:14 pm to
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y’all want to shot our selves in the foot again and increase the deficit again by creating creating permanent tax cut for corporations


Well if the government didn’t spend more than it has, there won’t be a deficit.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48298 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:14 pm to
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You dumbass. They were to end the recession you dipshit so we didn’t enter another Great Depression bc of George Bush’s spending on war plus his tax cuts. Now that the economy is stable and the unemployment is at an all time low , y’all want to shot our selves in the foot again and increase the deficit again by creating creating permanent tax cut for corporations


Perhaps you should expand your vocabulary and understanding beyond "bumbass, dipshit, and Muh Bush".


Let's go back to Clinton era taxes And spending. Deal?

That's what I thought. So pipe down, dummy.
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:19 pm to
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They were to end the recession you dipshit so we didn’t enter another Great Depression bc of George Bush’s spending on war plus his tax cuts.


Yeah, that hardline right wing publication New York Times was just shilling for Bush after his tax cuts.

It's funny how liberals drag out Bush when they never ever propose any serious spending cuts. They're all fiscal hawks until they get into power and spend more than a drunken sailor on liberty in some foreign country. The only difference is the drunken sailor is smart enough stop spending money when they run out.

When your ilk gets serious about spending...and I mean serious, not repeat tired, worn out, banal talking points, then you have room to talk.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16411 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:24 pm to
The Left hates anything that gives the individual more control and takes power away from Central Government. The mentally ill left doesn't know why or what they don't like about 95% of the time they just protest and rally about anything that comes from a non-Leftist.

If it's good for America it is bad for the left.

Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:24 pm to
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experts..

Maybe bc they are tacking on random bills that have nothing to do with taxes like

Drilling in ANWR ( arctic national wildlife refuge)

Repeal of Obama’s care individual mandate

Separating of church and state to allow church to contribute to campaign funds

Defining what a fetus is to effect pro-choice rights .

More than being a glued to together tax cut for those that make over a million dollars a year, that will add 1.5 billion to the nation deficit, it’s just a catch all bill for all the little bull shite they couldn’t get done today.


Nonsense, if any of those were the reason they objected to this bill they would have been in there trying to negotiate and deal with the GOP, clearly Trump is willing to work with them.

But instead, they don't want ANYTHING to be passed by this Administration. The details don't even matter. I guaranfrickingtee that in January the GOP could start working on a bill to legalize "dreamers" and the Dems will sit to side and scream that Republicans hate illegal aliens.

At this point only a moron supports the DNC at any level.
Posted by Bison
Truth or Consequences
Member since Dec 2016
1236 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:24 pm to
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Muh bush

Asshat. It’s literally bush’s Adminstration that turned a 6 trillion dollar surplus into a 6 trillion dollar . I understand it was for a war but conservation really need to own up to the fact that it was y’all ‘ unchecked spending’ that got us into the economic situation that got us where we are and tax cuts only put off the fact that hard working Americans will have to make up the budget deficit in the coming years.
Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
4332 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:24 pm to
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5 trillion dollar surplus from Clinton


Fake news. You are dumb.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16411 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:27 pm to
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At this point only a moron supports the DNC at any level.


It's impossible to argue against this statement.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48298 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:27 pm to
Let's go back to Clinton era taxes and spending. Deal?

That's what I thought. Pipe down, dummy.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:28 pm to
It's pretty simple. The tax plan has short term benefits and unknown long term costs. This plays in the Reublicans' favor for 2018. The democrats know this so they're going to oppose it no matter what.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42578 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:42 pm to
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They have never payed for themselves.


They have always increased revenue to the treasury. Congress has always spent all of that surplus plus more.

It is the SPENDING that causes the outlandish debt.

Congress cannot discipline themselves to stop giving away other people's money buying votes for themselves.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42578 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:44 pm to
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The tax plan has short term benefits and unknown long term costs


I assume you mean the 'short term' means the 10 year sunset on the personal tax rates. That is because of some arcane rule set up long ago - I don't know the history of it, but I do know that if they could, the GOP would eliminate that provision and the DEMs would fight it tooth and nail to keep it in.

DEMs want something in there to complain about - something that they DEMAND be in there.
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:46 pm to
Tax plan passes. Economy booms. Democrats doom.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29438 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:48 pm to
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that turned a 6 trillion dollar surplus into a 6 trillion dollar . 
Where are you getting these numbers from?

Out of your arse I suspect.
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