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re: Why is Russia so poor?

Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:35 pm to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:35 pm to
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I have. That's why i made the above comments.


Those liberal authors you read are doing you dirty

Sad
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:36 pm to
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They’re about to be a lot richer when they control Ukraine.

They're going to have wealth of natural resources. You do realize they already have this and are a poor shithole, right?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:36 pm to
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NATO isn't fully participating. If they were, this wouldn't be close.


this is us pulling out the stops, this is our max effort
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74547 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:36 pm to
Lol
So true. But they don't quit and are hard as nails. They are a unique people as I said in another thread. Like us almost always underestimated..
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5669 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:36 pm to
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Their GDP ranking of Russia has went from #4 in 1992 to #11 in 2022.... 144 million people and they are failing as a nation.


Ask Europe who is ranked where in gdp after this winter. Sometimes being too reliant on other people/countries put you in a bad place economically. Germany officials laughed when they were told not to be so reliant on Russian energy. Who is laughing now and who will be laughing in the future.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40770 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:39 pm to
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They're going to have wealth of natural resources. You do realize they already have this and are a poor shithole, right?


Name all of the resources Russia has in order of quantity without using Google in under 30 seconds.
Posted by Warboo
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Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:40 pm to
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They're going to have wealth of natural resources. You do realize they already have this and are a poor shithole, right?


As Europe goes greener and super libtard green natural resources will become a wealth for the non libtards.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:40 pm to
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Those liberal authors you read are doing you dirty


At what point in Imperial Europe was Russia not considered a backwater? What time frame, what actions (trade deals, treaties, marriages, etc.) defends your argument?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:41 pm to
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this is us pulling out the stops, this is our max effort

No it's not

How many F22s and F35s piloted by American pilots are in the conflict?

How many aircraft carriers?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:43 pm to
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As Europe goes greener and super libtard green natural resources will become a wealth for the non libtards.

I think Russia's invasion is going to lead to a course correction there in Western Europe, FWIW.

That doesn't speak to Russia managing its resources well. They've been a huge petro producer/exporter for decades and are poor as shite. You have to try to get that outcome.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:44 pm to
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You do realize they already have this and are a poor shithole


Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74547 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:47 pm to
It's simple.
Ukraine would vastly improve the wealth of any nation that possessed it.

To argue against this is useless.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94232 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:52 pm to
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At what point in Imperial Europe was Russia not considered a backwater


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Russia stopped being considered a backwater in the early 1700s under Peter the Great. The key moment was winning the Great Northern War (1700–1721) against Sweden, which gave Russia access to the Baltic and made it a major European power. St. Petersburg was founded in 1703 as a modern, Western-style capital, symbolizing Russia’s shift toward Europe. Peter also modernized the military, built alliances through royal marriages, and expanded trade. By 1721, Russia was officially an empire, and European powers recognized it as a major player.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:53 pm to
And?

Per capita GDP:

Russia is 67th at 14,953

Behind such illustrious countries like:

Turkey
Chile
Bulgaria
Maldives
Cuba
Costa Rica
Trinidad and Tobago
Romania
Curacao
Seychelles
Antigua
Croatia
Poland
Hungary
Latvia
Greece
Slovakia
Lithuania
Guyana
Czech Republic
Estonia
Slovenia
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:54 pm to
Sounds like Grok

and

quote:

winning the Great Northern War (1700–1721) against Sweden


Oh, Sweden in the 18th Century

Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:57 pm to
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Per capita GDP:

Russia is 67th at 14,953


Yet they’re out producing our combined defense sectors, while pursuing a guns and butter strategy
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:01 pm to
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Yet they’re out producing our combined defense sectors, while pursuing a guns and butter strategy

This was already explained to you, you replied ignorantly, then ran.

Russia threatened to use nukes, which is their SOP when they fear losing. This has thwarted direct NATO/US involvement for the most part and permitted Russia to play war as if it was WWI.

Yes, they can out-produce us in a style of war that we would never fight, that would be routed quickly by modern warfare.

Again, I'll ask you:

How many F35s piloted by Americans are in Ukraine? F22s? Aircraft carriers? Our superior navy? 0.0. So yeah we're not going to do well when the backbone of our strategy isn't being used. We don't rely on the "out last them with our infinite meat suits" strategy that is the Russian way.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:05 pm to
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We don't rely on the "out last them with our infinite meat suits"


They’re more casualty averse than the Ukrainians

quote:

Yes, they can out-produce us in a style of war that we would never fight, that would be routed quickly by modern warfare.


The static front is a technology issue, we would have the same problem
This post was edited on 3/1/25 at 9:07 pm
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:06 pm to
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Russia at peace had an economy the size of Italy
Now it’s cratered much lower


Lies...Russia's economy has increased during the War.


DEBUNKING Ursula's mantra about 'failing' Russian economy

EU Commission President, who claims the EU sanctions are seriously hurting the Russian economy, might want to look at some COLD HARD FACTS instead of Western propaganda for a change.

1??Russia has overtaken Japan to become the 4th LARGEST ECONOMY in the world (PPP).

2??Russia’s GDP grew by 4.1% in Q2 2024, OUTPERFORMING GERMANY, which saw a 0.3% contraction in 2023.

3??Russia’s unemployment rate hit a HISTORIC LOW of 2.3%, compared to 3.6% in the U.S. and over 11% in Spain.

4??Russia’s budget deficit is just 1.7% of GDP, far LOWER THAN THE US at 5.8%


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Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8946 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:10 pm to
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Russia needs to figure out how to do white better smh!

You're going to have a heart attack when you check Croatia, Hungary, Slovenia, Moldova, or Belarus.
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