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re: Why is it unpopular to say I’m tired of Trump’s stupid comments and he looks low energy?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:36 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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This demand of unadulterated worship
This isnt happening.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 11:37 am
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:38 am to Flats
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For the serious dumbasses here you can’t criticize either. You discuss Trump, they discuss you. It’s boringly predictable.
The Desantis group definitely attacks Trump supporters more than the Trump group attacks Desantis supporters.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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That's how a person like me who wants less government gets labeled a Progressive/Leftist
No, this is how
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I've never supported or defended radical Christian/Evangelical bullshite. I've always made it clear they are the mob that scares me the most.
That’s exactly what James Carville said yesterday.
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I can't help that "Republicans" now want big government b/c they are scared and think they need it to thwart their perceived out group.
We saw what side of the ousting of McCarthy you were on. That type of fight is necessary to get spending under control.
And you warned people they were siding with democrats. You double down and say that group wants big government.
Tell us more about projection, please.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:40 am to OceanMan
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It’s all people attacking whoever they perceive the OP is referring to.
We've been interacting with the rabid MAGA types for years now. They really went into super melt when RDS dared to challenge Trump and defined their beliefs on the subject.
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This includes yourself, referring to people as a cult.
I called cult-like behavior, cult-like. I also described how there is overlap in cult thought process/rhetoric and MAGA.
I will also say 2+2=4 tomorrow. Facts are facts.
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You are simply part of another group that focuses on attacking Trump because you have a personal bias against the people that you think support him
This is a complete lie and fabrication
My support/lack of support for Trump has nothing to do with his followers. My evaluation of Trump has to do with Trump.
My evaluation of his followers has nothing to do with Trump. It has everything to do with each individual and his/her behavior.
The fact that you're trying to combine these concepts is showing your true colors.
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criticism of Trump is most often a veiled criticism of the people that support him,
Doubling down on the in/out group dynamic. Not shocking.
You know who also does this, right?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:41 am to moneyg
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The Desantis group definitely attacks Trump supporters more than the Trump group attacks Desantis supporters.
There are few desantis supporters, most arent bound to a candidate like MAGA is.
Its a personality cult.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:43 am to OceanMan
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That’s exactly what James Carville said yesterday.
Cool.
Irrelevant, but cool.
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We saw what side of the ousting of McCarthy you were on.
I really didn't give my personal opinion much during that saga.
Y'all have a tough time understanding objective commentary doesn't require subjective preferences. Again, in/out group dynamic at work.
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That type of fight is necessary to get spending under control.
It's not going to do anything of substance re: spending.
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And you warned people they were siding with democrats.
Who voted to oust McCarthy? What was the party split?
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You double down and say that group wants big government.
Yes. Did you ignore 2016-2020? Spending went way up. Government did not decreased, even when Trump was given the option to veto renewals of Patriot Act bullshite.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:44 am to moneyg
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The Desantis group definitely attacks Trump supporters more than the Trump group attacks Desantis supporters.
"The Desantis group" is becoming less defined that other catchphrases like "globalist"
I have been included in "the Desantis group" when I publicly announced I didn't support him months ago
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:50 am to Breesus
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And actual small government fiscal conservatives do not have a voice.
They have entrusted their voice to politicians that don’t actually favor small government or fiscal responsibility.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:51 am to OceanMan
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They have entrusted their voice to politicians that don’t actually favor small government or fiscal responsibility.
No one has a voice, its all fake and phony.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:52 am to Breesus
It’s only unpopular with tCult…don’t talk about their daddy like that!
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:52 am to OceanMan
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They have entrusted their voice to politicians that don’t actually favor small government or fiscal responsibility.
Like Trump.
Again that's why people were looking for other options who are more likely to actually accomplish this goal
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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quote:To be a cult, you have to be a minority of belief. J
No you don't Where do y'all come up with these grandiose statements?
Merriam-Webster Dictionary
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a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion
Oxford Languages
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a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.
Wikipedia
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Cult is a term, in most contexts pejorative, for a relatively small group which is typically led by a charismatic and self-appointed leader, who excessively controls its members, requiring unwavering devotion to a set of beliefs and practices which are considered deviant (outside the norms of society).[1
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:02 pm to OceanMan
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a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion
He didn't say population. He said belief.
North Korea is a cult. Russia is largely going that way.
Look up "cult of personality". It's extremely popular in authoritarian societies/dictatorships.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I don't know which specific principle you're referencing.
Didn’t stop you from making a comment that I am responding to.
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They don't permit criticism of Trump, specifically. They permit discussion on issues/policies. But Trump? Off limits.
Trump is the most criticized person in the world. Even today. He is criticized more than the current president. Their permission is quite obviously meaningless.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:04 pm to OceanMan
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Trump is the most criticized person in the world. Even today. He is criticized more than the current president.
This is discussing his opponents.
We're discussing the population of putative support.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That's a YUGE improvement from "lol TDS. cuck."
Says the person that used the TDS label on the first page.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:13 pm to OceanMan
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Says the person that used the TDS label on the first page.
But not the connotation you replied to.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Cool. Irrelevant, but cool.
You saying the same thing as one of the more prominent leaders of the democrat spin machine, while trying to demonstrate how conservative you are, is irrelevant. That’s funny.
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I really didn't give my personal opinion much during that saga.
You wouldn’t withhold your personal opinion on anything
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Y'all have a tough time understanding objective commentary doesn't require subjective preferences.
“Matt Gaetz is just grandstanding” is not objective commentary. That was your opinion, and it was incorrect.
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It's not going to do anything of substance re: spending.
More objective commentary?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Like Trump. Again that's why people were looking for other options who are more likely to actually accomplish this goal
Keep up man. Maybe read posts before you respond. The group he was referring to was isolated by Trump. If the other options are currently in the federal government, please explain what they are doing to fight for “small government”. Which options exactly?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:22 pm to OceanMan
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You saying the same thing as one of the more prominent leaders of the democrat spin machine, while trying to demonstrate how conservative you are, is irrelevant.
That specific point was to show I'm not a caricature of a "conservative", but I'm glad you clearly understood the simple point.
I never said I was "conservative", either. You filled that gap in yourself.
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You wouldn’t withhold your personal opinion on anything
This isn't true. I largely don't discuss my personal opinion on here, but it doesn't stop people from imputing their perception of it in response to my posts all the
time.
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“Matt Gaetz is just grandstanding” is not objective commentary.
I should have used better words.
He was just grandstanding *with his current Republican support.
Without the DEMs making it their move, he would still be grandstanding. If you look at my comments, they're always specific to his support within the GOP. I did not comment on the DEMs making a move because I didn't think he'd ever join in with a united DEM front.
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More objective commentary?
Yes. Objective analysis. There aren't the votes to get those through the Senate and they won't survive Biden.
That's objective analysis.
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