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re: Why is American History split into Black and White?
Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:49 pm to tigerpawl
Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:49 pm to tigerpawl
It's the chasm between races that causes it to be split. The minority experience and contribution to our history has been often overlooked, so the response to that is to highlight Black history (for example) to make up that deficit.
Which is very evident as so many scream about CRT and try to legally restrict conversations about the Civil Rights Movement and slavery in the classroom. The history of oppression against minorities is deeply entwined with the history of our country and has to be taught of we want children to grow up with any real sense of the world and how we got to where we are today.
When we restrict these realities from being taught, we create two sets of history.
Your question is a perfect example of the cultural schism in America. Conservatives believe that the left perpetuates racism by creating this "chasm" and using it as manipulation to secure minority votes. They don't understand that it is their own inability to understand the importance of recognizing minority oppression, whether in reviewing history or creating policy, that separates us and enables the wealthy to drive it further in order to prevent the working class from joining up together and threatening the power structure.
The history is there. It is fact. It is reality. The alternative history is created when all of this is left out.
It shouldn't offend white conservatives that children are taught the reality that white people treated black people (again, an example. This applies to almost every minority group), pretty fricking brutally for a really long time and that the brutality has effects that still exist today. That doesn't mean that white people are inherently bad, or that there is some sort of guilt that white people today should inherently have to feel about it. A lot of people that we are taught to look up to participated in this oppression, sometimes very actively, that's okay. Life is complicated and there's so much nuance. Recognizing this should not feel minimizing or a personal attack. Society is about overall progress and we frick up and learn. That's totally fine, but we gotta be able to look back at those frick ups to be better.
Which is very evident as so many scream about CRT and try to legally restrict conversations about the Civil Rights Movement and slavery in the classroom. The history of oppression against minorities is deeply entwined with the history of our country and has to be taught of we want children to grow up with any real sense of the world and how we got to where we are today.
When we restrict these realities from being taught, we create two sets of history.
Your question is a perfect example of the cultural schism in America. Conservatives believe that the left perpetuates racism by creating this "chasm" and using it as manipulation to secure minority votes. They don't understand that it is their own inability to understand the importance of recognizing minority oppression, whether in reviewing history or creating policy, that separates us and enables the wealthy to drive it further in order to prevent the working class from joining up together and threatening the power structure.
The history is there. It is fact. It is reality. The alternative history is created when all of this is left out.
It shouldn't offend white conservatives that children are taught the reality that white people treated black people (again, an example. This applies to almost every minority group), pretty fricking brutally for a really long time and that the brutality has effects that still exist today. That doesn't mean that white people are inherently bad, or that there is some sort of guilt that white people today should inherently have to feel about it. A lot of people that we are taught to look up to participated in this oppression, sometimes very actively, that's okay. Life is complicated and there's so much nuance. Recognizing this should not feel minimizing or a personal attack. Society is about overall progress and we frick up and learn. That's totally fine, but we gotta be able to look back at those frick ups to be better.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:52 pm to tigerpawl
Here's a question that begs for an answer.
Why can every ethnic group in America excluding whites have their own ethnic specific media/entertainment outlets, political action organizations, universities, fraternities/sororities, endowments etc? Isn't that the definition of being exclusionary and racist?
Why can every ethnic group in America excluding whites have their own ethnic specific media/entertainment outlets, political action organizations, universities, fraternities/sororities, endowments etc? Isn't that the definition of being exclusionary and racist?
Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:57 pm to Fells
You’re a mad man, old chap!!
Factual history and the present day tactics by which the left manipulates it for the own gain are two totally different things.
Factual history and the present day tactics by which the left manipulates it for the own gain are two totally different things.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 6:52 am to Ace Midnight
quote:I think a more accurate description is "POST-THOUGHT MODERNITY"
Frankly modern (or post-modern) thinking just isn't nuanced or well-rounded enough to handle these "tapestry" situations. Everything must be, pardon the pun, "black and white."
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:02 am to SOSFAN
quote:and all WERE enslaved..
False narrative made slavery into a white as owners and blacks as slaves but reality was whites, blacks and Native Americans all owned slaves.
What irritates me is how the blacks were sold into slavery BY OTHER BLACKS.
Their enslavement in Africa was worse than enslavement in the rest of the world - vastly fewer survived black on black enslavement that euro-agricultural late millennium enslavement.
Huge numbers of people - maybe MUCH MORE than in pre-1800s enslavement - are enslaved to this day.
So its not about solving anything at all. It is simply another communist plot to act as though they seek remedy to ONE PARTICULAR GROUP OF PEOPLE whose ancestors were saved from African enslavement by other tribes. 300 to 500 years ago!
You could not make up a sillier notion.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:09 am to tigerpawl
We need division to move forward?
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:28 am to JJJimmyJimJames
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Huge numbers of people - maybe MUCH MORE than in pre-1800s enslavement - are enslaved to this day.
The definition of what constitutes a "slave" have been expanded, but it is generally accepted there are more slaves on planet Earth now, than at any time in history - some estimates as high as 45 to 50 million.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:53 am to tigerpawl
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Why is American History split into Black and White?
Our politicians need someone to blame.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:56 am to tigerpawl
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Why is American History split into Black and White?
Lowest hanging fruit. People by and large are not very smart so to dumb it down, this is it.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:00 am to tigerpawl
Because white people did some amazing stuff. Black folks not so much. But that’s racist to say these days. An old lady sat in the front of the bus. Wow , that’s incredible. some say it was fake or over exaggerated anyway. Not saying it fair, but it’s true.
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