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Why economic growth can't be green
Posted on 9/16/18 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 9/16/18 at 6:18 pm
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'New evidence suggests that green growth isn’t the panacea everyone has been hoping for. In fact, it isn’t even possible.
Green growth first became a buzz phrase in 2012 at the United Nations Conference on Sustainable Development in Rio de Janeiro.'
'But the promise of green growth turns out to have been based more on wishful thinking than on evidence. In the years since the Rio conference, three major empirical studies have arrived at the same rather troubling conclusion: Even under the best conditions, absolute decoupling of GDP from resource use is not possible on a global scale.'
Some of us never bought the UN Rio gibberish. It turns out that we were right.
'New evidence suggests that green growth isn’t the panacea everyone has been hoping for. In fact, it isn’t even possible.
Green growth first became a buzz phrase in 2012 at the United Nations Conference on Sustainable Development in Rio de Janeiro.'
'But the promise of green growth turns out to have been based more on wishful thinking than on evidence. In the years since the Rio conference, three major empirical studies have arrived at the same rather troubling conclusion: Even under the best conditions, absolute decoupling of GDP from resource use is not possible on a global scale.'
Some of us never bought the UN Rio gibberish. It turns out that we were right.
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Posted on 9/16/18 at 6:23 pm to conservativewifeymom
If green meant growth then businesses would have naturally found it.
Don't need the government to try and find efficiencies for business.
Don't need the government to try and find efficiencies for business.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 6:38 pm to conservativewifeymom
So let's just give up and give our kids and grandkids air they can see to breath because the fossil fuel folks have the money to tell us to.
We have to do what we can to keep cleaning this earth up,or where else will we live.
I saw and smelled what it was like as a kid,I don't want it for my kids and grandkids.
We have to do what we can to keep cleaning this earth up,or where else will we live.
I saw and smelled what it was like as a kid,I don't want it for my kids and grandkids.
This post was edited on 9/16/18 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 9/16/18 at 6:41 pm to Clark14
Shut up you pussy
Posted on 9/16/18 at 6:43 pm to roguetiger15
nice melt snowflake
Posted on 9/16/18 at 6:44 pm to roguetiger15
I know you and your boyfriends aren't concerned about kids,but grownups are.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 6:47 pm to Clark14
Melt? Lulz you’re the one melting over a fake issue.
Looking at your post history I can see you automatically pull out the ‘melt’ line when you can’t back up your beliefs
Looking at your post history I can see you automatically pull out the ‘melt’ line when you can’t back up your beliefs
This post was edited on 9/16/18 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 9/16/18 at 6:52 pm to conservativewifeymom
quote:
Even under the best conditions, absolute decoupling of GDP from resource use is not possible on a global scale.'
Why would "going green" require that we decouple GDP from resources? The clean air and water acts were boons for the economy and not burdens.
This post was edited on 9/16/18 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 9/16/18 at 6:54 pm to Clark14
quote:
So let's just give up and give our kids and grandkids air they can see to breath because the fossil fuel folks have the money to tell us to.
We have to do what we can to keep cleaning this earth up,or where else will we live.
I saw and smelled what it was like as a kid,I don't want it for my kids and grandkids.
No one wants polluted air.
Likewise businesses dont want to be so tightly regulated that they spend 20% more to save 1% pollution.
There is a balance.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 6:56 pm to conservativewifeymom
quote:
New evidence suggests that green growth isn’t the panacea everyone has been hoping for. In fact, it isn’t even possible.
Does this constitute a “No shite”?
I think a “No shite” would be appropriate here.
A “Dahhh” would also.
Only an idiot would have thought otherwise. Only a fool would have believed in rainbows and unicorn dust.
Democrats are so stupid.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 7:11 pm to conservativewifeymom
quote:
Some of us never bought the UN Rio gibberish. It turns out that we were right.
So did you read the article or just the title..
"The only realistic shot humanity has at averting ecological collapse is to impose hard caps on resource use, as the economist Daniel O’Neill recently proposed"
Posted on 9/16/18 at 7:22 pm to bmy
I'll ignore your condescending tone for the sake of sticking to the subject rather than descending in a tit for tat. The article tries to have a balanced approach, which is why I even posted about it. It doesn't claim to have all the answers. It does have a leftist bias against 'rich' nations and doesn't properly acknowledge the inefficient use of resources by underdeveloped nations with exploding populations. But it refutes Rio, which is a good start.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 7:27 pm to Clark14
quote:
I know you and your boyfriends aren't concerned about kids,but grownups are.
That's why liberals abort them so frequently.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 8:35 pm to roguetiger15
nice melt
Posted on 9/16/18 at 8:47 pm to BurningHeart
Thanks for a non childish response.
If we give these guys the green light they will take it.
We have a choice,go back to where we were,or look to the future.
We should be further along than we are technology wise,but the big money guys like living in the past while living big.
We were supposed to be in the Jetson times by now,but we're the same as when I was a kid with a few more bells and whistles.
It's disappointing...
If we give these guys the green light they will take it.
We have a choice,go back to where we were,or look to the future.
We should be further along than we are technology wise,but the big money guys like living in the past while living big.
We were supposed to be in the Jetson times by now,but we're the same as when I was a kid with a few more bells and whistles.
It's disappointing...
Posted on 9/16/18 at 9:47 pm to conservativewifeymom
quote:
I'll ignore your condescending tone for the sake of sticking to the subject rather than descending in a tit for tat. The article tries to have a balanced approach, which is why I even posted about it. It doesn't claim to have all the answers. It does have a leftist bias against 'rich' nations and doesn't properly acknowledge the inefficient use of resources by underdeveloped nations with exploding populations. But it refutes Rio, which is a good start.
It refutes Rio arguing that a tax wouldn't be effective.. and argues for something far less palatable to republicans.. hard caps on a nations resource use.
That's the answer it gives... you're right though, it is a good start
Posted on 9/16/18 at 9:53 pm to bmy
quote:
"The only realistic shot humanity has at averting ecological collapse is to impose hard caps on resource use, as the economist Daniel O’Neill recently proposed"
Who the frick is Daniel O'Neill?
Let's cost the economy trillions because he says so!
Posted on 9/16/18 at 10:13 pm to Clark14
quote:
So let's just give up and give our kids and grandkids air they can see to breath because the fossil fuel folks have the money to tell us to.
We have to do what we can to keep cleaning this earth up,or where else will we live.
I saw and smelled what it was like as a kid,I don't want it for my kids and grandkids.
Hey Clark: do you drive a car? Do you use hair spray, BBQ using lighter fluids, breathe, fly in an air plane, ride in a bus, cut down trees..... then you're the one causing all this bad air crap. You can't be trusted...
Posted on 9/16/18 at 10:16 pm to Clark14
Cry a river to China. They are the main polluters, snowflake.
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