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re: Why do they call it transphobic?
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:41 am to SaintsReportExile
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:41 am to SaintsReportExile
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transhaters
It's hate based upon fear.
Humans are innately afraid of what seems strange, threatening, even dangerous to social order. That fear is manifest in hostility and eventually hatred.
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Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:43 am to tarzana
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It's hate based upon fear.
Humans are innately afraid of what seems strange, threatening, even dangerous to social order. That fear is manifest in hostility and eventually hatred.
You mean like how leftists relate to personal responsibility?
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:51 am to wackatimesthree
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But people who are really gay/trans (and I get that there's way more Gen-Zers responding to a social contagion than there are really gay/trans people) do not have a choice about how they feel on the inside.
Wrong.
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I'm not saying they have to indulge any feelings they have any more than I think a straight guy needs to indulge feelings he might have for screwing his wife's best friend, but why can't people just admit that some people are just gay? They do not experience any physical attraction to the opposite sex, but instead are very attracted to members of their own sex? Why is that impossible for some people to admit?
It simply isn't true. Sure, people have temptations.
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It doesn't matter whether the feelings are a choice or whether the feelings are the result of a gene or some other factor that the person cannot control.
It obviously does, because it triggered you so much you wrote multiple paragraphs about it.
Regardless, these people are in complete control.
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Pedophilia doesn't appear to be a choice. It's still not appropriate to indulge in. Alcoholism/addiction doesn't appear to be a choice. It's still not appropriate to indulge in.
All wrong.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:53 am to wackatimesthree
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Exactly.
That's why it's not "silly" at all.
Mental illness (which people do not have a choice about) exists, and sometimes it causes people to feel in ways that do not correspond to reality.
If the conversation were about mental illness, then you might have a point.
It isn't. The conversation is we must accept whatever depravity people want to indulge in.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:03 am to imjustafatkid
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If the conversation were about mental illness, then you might have a point.
Mental illness is the relevant issue in any conversation about the trans circus.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:06 am to tarzana
I hate mud and dust. That doesn't mean I fear them.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:08 am to imjustafatkid
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All wrong.
Wow.
What a compelling case.
I'm certainly convinced.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:09 am to imjustafatkid
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If the conversation were about mental illness, then you might have a point.
Most trans individuals chose to be whatever the frick they are.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:13 am to RogerTheShrubber
I did some consulting for a company that had some freak dressing up as a woman on their staff
This was in Chicago, and I can attest to the fact that nobody took him seriously. Everyone at the company laughed at him and considered him a goof.
This was in Chicago, and I can attest to the fact that nobody took him seriously. Everyone at the company laughed at him and considered him a goof.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 10:14 am
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:14 am to SaintsReportExile
There's no such thing as a "trans" person. There's XX and XY chromosomes. No one can change that.
I can't rationally fear something that doesn't exist, therefore I cannot be "trans"phobic. Something worth noting, however, is that mental illness and the fact that modern society has embraced it, is probably worth being afraid of
I can't rationally fear something that doesn't exist, therefore I cannot be "trans"phobic. Something worth noting, however, is that mental illness and the fact that modern society has embraced it, is probably worth being afraid of
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:14 am to imjustafatkid
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If the conversation were about mental illness, then you might have a point.
I believe it is about mental illness. I think depravity is a form of mental illness. Or the result of it, rather.
The problem is that you guys want to be able to use the analogy of someone thinking that he is Napoleon or Jesus when it suits you, but also claim it's a choice, ostensibly because you cannot intellectually grasp that whether it's a choice or not doesn't matter as to whether it's normal, healthy, or morally o.k., so you think that disproving that it's a choice strengthens the case that it's morally depraved.
It doesn't.
It has nothing to do with it. It's morally depraved because it is, whether the impulse to do so is inherited, acquired, or some combination.
In any case, which is it? Are trans people (real trans people, not a 20 year old who doesn't really like himself and gets all kinds of societal encouragement to create himself as a whole new person by going trans) mentally ill like someone who thinks he's Jesus, or are they simply choosing to be attracted to a deviant lifestyle?
I think someone with a dick and balls who feels a strong compulsion that he's really a woman is mentally ill.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:17 am to hogcard1964
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I did some consulting for a company that had some freak dressing up as a woman on their staff
I have a granddaughter I am very close to, she has a friend locally who has been utterly abused by the gay community.
Hes a good kid, has a great heart. Mom and dad both dead from drugs, grandpa just died. I'm flying her up to spend time with him this Christmas.
Ive watched what the gay community has done to this poor child and It pisses me off to no end. Hes at least decided hes no longer trans, thank goodness.
He will grow up to be a gay man, thats his experience, the community has abused the frick out of him. But I'll always treat him like family, none of this is his fault.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:17 am to SaintsReportExile
cocksuckers
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:19 am to wackatimesthree
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I think someone with a dick and balls who feels a strong compulsion that he's really a woman is mentally ill.
Gays and trans have a much much higher rate of social disconnect (autism, etc) than straight kids.
Theyre disconnected from regular human emotions and generally gravitate toward their first experience as their identity.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:24 am to wackatimesthree
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I believe it is about mental illness. I think depravity is a form of mental illness. Or the result of it, rather.
Me too, but no one gives a crap that we think that. The conversation is about forcing acceptance, not treating mental illness. Treating these people would be admitting what they're doing is wrong.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 10:25 am
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:26 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Gays and trans have a much much higher rate of social disconnect (autism, etc) than straight kids.
Theyre disconnected from regular human emotions and generally gravitate toward their first experience as their identity.
Sure. I know a kid who is textbook. He's on the spectrum, has a terrible relationship with his highly dysfunctional family, and studied psychology at Auburn, where trans is pushed hard, and what do you know? He's now no longer Steve, he's Abigail.
I get all of that.
But all of that simply explains why he's acting out in an abnormal way. It doesn't make it more or less abnormal.
And there are people who—before all of this insanity became mainstream—didn't have society pushing them to do this, yet they "always felt like they were female." I don't really care what the reason for that is in the context of this discussion. It's not normal.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:31 am to wackatimesthree
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It doesn't make it more or less abnormal.
Theyre offering it as a choice today to kids. They can be whatever gender they choose.
Most of these kids have nothing wrong with them, theyre just following a fad.
The 1% or so who are truly gay or transexual, I believe are born broken.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:57 am to wackatimesthree
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So what? The point is that it doesn't matter.
Sure it matters.
If there is a motive it matters.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:59 am to Errerrerrwere
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If there is a motive it matters.
Bingo.
The 20% rise in generational trannysim isnt organic. Its just choices given to kids.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:50 am to hogcard1964
Disgust isn't the same thing as hate
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