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re: Why do Republicans and conservatives care about all the inner city black on black killings

Posted on 8/4/20 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 4:37 pm to
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What Republican policies fight against the racist policies of the Dems?


GOP is constantly fighting against the bondages of welfare and food stamps. For school choice. For reducing taxes and regulations that inhibit job growth.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 4:40 pm to
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Less crime means more stability which means more jobs which means a healthier society, which leads to overall harmony, which renders race issues irrelevant.





You're are a good person. However, people in power don't want less crime(many of them profit from it). The lack of stability is how there are career politicians. They don't want a healthy society. Race has been and will forever be an issue in the world.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:10 pm to
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GOP is constantly fighting against the bondages of welfare and food stamps. For school choice. For reducing taxes and regulations that inhibit job growth.



What makes you think welfare and food stamps are racist policies? Do only Blacks benefit from it? What GOP president has actually cut welfare and food stamps?

I'm for school choice and charter schools. How far will students have to be bused to the school of choice?

What did businesses do with the recent tax cuts? I agree with you about regulations.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:12 pm to
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If that’s true, those apathetic blacks are still part of the problem.



What makes you think they are apathetic? Media coverage huh?
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:19 pm to
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But can say unequivocally that for nearly 30 years, I've been saying that the argument that me being conservative means I don't care about black people makes no sense.



Who said all conservatives don't care about Black people?

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Because from my foxhole, I think that if we could somehow even slightly mainstream black culture, it would result in a massive economic boom that was good for all of us



A lot of Black culture has been mainstream since the 90's and the economic boom is still ongoing.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19815 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:34 pm to
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What makes you think welfare and food stamps are racist policies?


The DNC and the CBC and the NAACP tell us everything disproportionately afflicts poor minorities, so we must assume welfare and food stamps are racist.
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How far will students have to be bused to the school of choice?

There’d be no busing. If they can’t figure out a way to get to school, or it’s cost-prohibitive, they’d have to attend a school they can get to.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19815 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:37 pm to
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What makes you think they are apathetic?

You implied they were:
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You are focused on the BLM Org and what they are doing far more than Black people are.


Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:43 pm to
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The DNC and the CBC and the NAACP tell us everything disproportionately afflicts poor minorities, so we must assume welfare and food stamps are racist.





So you agree with those three organizations? Poor minorities = blacks?

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There’d be no busing. If they can’t figure out a way to get to school, or it’s cost-prohibitive, they’d have to attend a school they can get to.



Which is why school choice does not automatically benefit all black communities. There has to be a plan to improve the community schools as well.
Posted by Calvin Coolidge
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 6:05 pm to
Because every American born or unborn is guaranteed the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 6:07 pm to
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You implied they were:



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You are focused on the BLM Org and what they are doing far more than Black people are.


So Black people have to focus on the BLM Org? That comment was specific to the focus that's put on it.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19815 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:13 pm to
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So you agree with those three organizations? Poor minorities = blacks?
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Statistically speaking, it’s a safe bet. In 2013, the number of blacks (only 13% of the population) surpassed whites (61% of the population) on the welfare and food stamps roles.

Clearly, poor minorities aren’t always black. I didn’t say they were. I just said that welfare entraps people and suppresses their ambitions, and since there are more minorities on the welfare roles, welfare negatively affects more minorities than whites.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19815 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:28 pm to
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So Black people have to focus on the BLM Org?


They certainly should. BLM’s policies would be disastrous for blacks in this country, and right now, BLM has a bigger political voice, and more political sway, than any other black group, politician, or citizens’ group in the country.

But you can continue to root for apathy and ignorance if you want to.
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 7:30 pm
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:31 pm to
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Statistically speaking, it’s a safe bet. In 2013, the number of blacks (only 13% of the population) surpassed whites (61% of the population) on the welfare and food stamps roles.



So it can't be racist if all races benefit from it right? What's the percentage of recipients that work? What's the percentage of recipients that have worked hard to get off them.

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Clearly, poor minorities aren’t always black. I didn’t say they were. I just said that welfare entraps people and suppresses their ambitions, and since there are more minorities on the welfare roles, welfare negatively affects more minorities than whites.



That's an assumption and generalization. It has definitely been an entrapment and suppressed the ambition of some. However, that doesn't apply to all people that are on them.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:40 pm to
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So it can't be racist if all races benefit from it right?


Totally depends on your definition of 'racist'.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:04 pm to
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They certainly should. BLM’s policies would be disastrous for blacks in this country, and right now, BLM has a bigger political voice, and more political sway, than any other black group, politician, or citizens’ group in the country.



I prefer Black's focus of improving education and economic empowerment/development.

Name one policy that they have pushed and influenced that lawmakers have changed.

They don't have the voice that you think they do, the majority knows their policies and do not agree with them.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:07 pm to
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I'm for school choice and charter schools. How far will students have to be bused to the school of choice?



Busing ?

You want their asses wiped also ?

Does a certain demographic know what PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY means ?

You want school choice you take YOUR child to school.

fricking amazing
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19815 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:25 pm to
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Name one policy that they have pushed and influenced that lawmakers have changed.


Who is “they?” BLM? I know you don’t “focus” on BLM, but it is not their MO to change things peacefully through legislation. They work through violence and intimidation.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69521 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:29 pm to
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Why do Republicans and conservatives care about all the inner city black on black killings


Because I have a heart and a soul?

The torment and insanity the inner city youth grow up in is a tragedy. Those kids are not at fault and it is a brutal reality when you think about it.

Any attempt to actually discuss or god forbid solve any of the issues these kids face is met with immediate vitriol and attack. It’s just sad.

They caught a 13 year old with a gun in my neighborhood last week stealing packages and breaking into cars. 13 fricking years old and he’s carrying a gun and committing crime. He basically never had a chance in life.

If the thought of these kids born into abuse and death doesn’t tug at your heart strings I assume you don’t have a heart.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:34 pm to
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Who is “they?” BLM? I know you don’t “focus” on BLM, but it is not their MO to change things peacefully through legislation. They work through violence and intimidation.


Yes, they = the BLM Org.

So you can't name one policy?

What policy change have they influenced?
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19815 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:50 pm to
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So you can't name one policy?



Many cities have scaled back their police forces (which won’t end well). Many cities have reappropriated police funding. More are planning to do the same. Vandalism seems to no longer be a crime, depending on the vandal’s ideology. Centuries-old ideas of self-defense are starting to be questioned, and in some cases, people defending themselves are getting arrested.
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