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re: Why are the conservative libertarians fighting maga so hard?
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:04 am to 3down10
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:04 am to 3down10
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It's the same arguments.
Very different subjects, which means the argument being invalid for one doesnt mean it is invalid for the other.
The far left encourages domestic violence and fraud, and enabling them only creates more innocent victims, so that's on you and all of the dirty liberals.
Its better to vote for the lesser of 2 evils rather than to enable the much bigger evil. That's basic logic and reasoning, which libertarians lack. The far left loves your principles.
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:04 am to davyjones
It actually makes it more sus a person who has been here longer. Especially since roadgator accuses me of being an alter. That would make him having 20 alters. He’s also the only guy who talks like he knows people in real life and the connections are Florida and Utah where he’s from.
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:06 am to DeBoar
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You’re not a voter if you’re staying home. Youre a garbage person who cries about politics but won’t go and perform your civic duty.
Less people should vote. The entire "get out to vote" campaigns are deliberate campaigns to drown out the intelligent voters with ignorant people who don't know anything other than a few media talking points and culture queues.
The fact your vote is equal to mine is why democracy sucks and why we should have a limited constitutional government where the government has very little power or impact on our lives.
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:07 am to 3down10
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The fact your vote is equal to mine is why democracy sucks
Because you think you’re better? Perhaps your self worth is less than what it actually is and why the people you support lose
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:10 am to davyjones
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Bro, you think trolling with an alternate account is a recent phenomenon??
Those membership dates are a non-factor.
No, I think stupid people use it as a lame excuse to attack people because they lack any ability to debate the actual topic.
And the people who are obsessed with such things are likely obsessed with them because they are doing that themselves, which makes them think everyone else is guilty of it.
I've been called an alt account thousands of times, always when someone is getting their shite handed to them on points.
Go ahead and argue with me on 10 accounts, I don't give a frick. That's just more work for you.
This post was edited on 10/3/26 at 12:11 am
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:12 am to DeBoar
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Because you think you’re better? Perhaps your self worth is less than what it actually is and why the people you support lose
Because I think you know what's best for you and I know what's best for me.
And I don't think either of us should have the power to force ourselves onto each other.
But yes, I am better than you.
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:26 am to djsdawg
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Very different subjects, which means the argument being invalid for one doesnt mean it is invalid for the other.
You have no philosophy and understanding is why you think it's different.
You have a pattern - something scares you, mostly as a result of propaganda, and you want extreme government action.
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The far left encourages domestic violence and fraud, and enabling them only creates more innocent victims, so that's on you and all of the dirty liberals.
You all hate freedom and you all think it's the role of government to make these choices for people.
The first and most important question on any issues is - Is this a proper role and function of government.
You and the rest of the freedom haters always say YES. In reality the answer is usually NO. If your answer is Yes to the first one, I have nothing for you unless it's specifically outlined in the constitution.
That's all you want to do, is keep making more and more things on government.
There is a layering system to government. The federal level should basically never be involved in domestic issues outside things interstate infrastructure/logistics. The state level is where domestics issues start to become a thing, but that can vary from state to state. Justice is the main thing, but education, health and what not can be ok at this level. And of course, more infrastructure.
Then you have local where your police and such mostly come in. They will handle the community domestic issues.
And finally you yourself as a free individual for all the rest.
And now you keep wanting to tell me I need to pass domestic issues on a federal level, and all this shite. And in doing so you destroy the republic. Now I'm stuck with whatever the frick California decides they want to vote for.
If you aren't about restoring the republic and conserving the constitution, then frick off - you are one of them. Just another freedom hating authoritarian with different morals. I'm not interested in what you are selling.
I'll keep voting for the right people at the state and local level for as long as I can. Because those are the people who matter.
Like 2 people trying to rob me and they both point at each other claiming the other guy wants more stuff.
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:27 am to 3down10
You’re a real piece of work.
*Can’t wait to see what this statement means about ME, what Im about, my political philosophy, etc.
*Can’t wait to see what this statement means about ME, what Im about, my political philosophy, etc.
This post was edited on 10/3/26 at 12:31 am
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:30 am to davyjones
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You’re a real piece of work.
You would love me if I was talking to democrats.
Which is funny because it's the same argument.
I am selfish if I don't want to give up this money, or treat people this way and blah blah blah.
All just freedom/liberty haters.
This post was edited on 10/3/26 at 12:31 am
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:41 am to 3down10
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You have no philosophy and understanding is why you think it's different.
Its different because we know crimes made by illegals and violent felons are 100% preventable. There is no guesswork on this subject matter, like there was with COVID. You were right about COVID, but you are making a losing argument on this subject matter.
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You all hate freedom and you all think it's the role of government to make these choices for people.
An essential role of a limited government is to protect its citizens from those who wish to do them harm. Its a choice to create more victims, a choice you continue to make.
My points apply to feds, states, and cities: the far left enables preventable crimes on all 3 levels. It works from the top down, one influences the others.
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:50 am to djsdawg
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Its different because we know crimes made by illegals and violent felons are 100% preventable. There is no guesswork on this subject matter, like there was with COVID. You were right about COVID, but you are making a losing argument on this subject matter.
People commit crimes regardless. That's why you should probably protect yourself and vote well in your local community and state elections.
There is no special requirement here. The federal government should secure our borders. They don't and didn't because they want to create these issues as an excuse to take away rights - by creating fears in people like you.
I'm all for removing them and preventing them. It's the one thing I'm somewhat happy about. But if you think it excuses everything else, you're wrong.
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An essential role of a limited government is to protect its citizens from those who wish to do them harm. Its a choice to create more victims, a choice you continue to make.
My points apply to feds, states, and cities: the far left enables preventable crimes on all 3 levels. It works from the top down, one influences the others.
I don't live in those states and cities. That's what's beautiful about a republic - the only people who suffer are the dumb asses who wanted it. And if they ever decide they've had enough, they can look at a state like Florida and figure out what they need to do to fix it.
You want everything decided on the federal level so we'll all be stuck with whatever shitty decision DC makes. No thanks.
Posted on 10/3/26 at 1:24 am to 3down10
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People commit crimes regardless.
No shite. We already have too many criminals roaming our streets, so its even more imperative to get rid of the ones who do not belong here. The far left is NOT going to do it on any level of govt.
Even if this was the only good thing the current admin has done, its far better than the alternative.
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I don't live in those states and cities.
There is no magical wall preventing them from ending up in your city and state. The far left ensures they are free to enter your space and harm people in your space. They want Border patrol gone. They want ICE gone. They want jails gone. They want violence, and your apathy enables them to work towards that.
Posted on 10/3/26 at 1:35 am to djsdawg
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No shite. We already have too many criminals roaming our streets, so its even more imperative to get rid of the ones who do not belong here. The far left is NOT going to do it on any level of govt.
Even if this was the only good thing the current admin has done, its far better than the alternative.
So get better police instead of trying to make mine shitty. The state of California should have 0 say in how my state handles these things.
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There is no magical wall preventing them from ending up in your city and state. The far left ensures they are free to enter your space and harm people in your space. They want Border patrol gone. They want ICE gone. They want jails gone. They want violence, and your apathy enables them to work towards that.
You realize Trump is going to give a bunch of illegals amnesty right?
This post was edited on 10/3/26 at 1:36 am
Posted on 10/3/26 at 2:00 am to 3down10
Trump has floated that idea a few times, but the administration usually backpedals after he says it.
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