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re: Why America was founded as a Christian nation
Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:34 am to oklahogjr
Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:34 am to oklahogjr
quote:The question isn't the obvious examples, several of which have been mentioned itt. The question is why you're being obtuse about something so obvious. Are you just debating for the sake of debating? What point are you trying to make?
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 11:05 am to somethingdifferent
My point is that anytime when asked what Christian beliefs we were founded on, no one can specify those beliefs. Or we get something weak stated such as well just read the declaration of independence or 10 commandments say don't murder example shown...
Something such as a belief were foundef upon shouldnt need all the extra go read and debate a blog post nonsense. It should be as simple as showing biblically this is a Christian belief that we uphold and here is that same belief in our constitution. Anything other than that so far has been a pretty big stretch to link Christianity to our founding principles.
Something such as a belief were foundef upon shouldnt need all the extra go read and debate a blog post nonsense. It should be as simple as showing biblically this is a Christian belief that we uphold and here is that same belief in our constitution. Anything other than that so far has been a pretty big stretch to link Christianity to our founding principles.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 11:10 am to oklahogjr
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My point is that anytime when asked what Christian beliefs we were founded on, no one can specify those beliefs. Or we get something weak stated such as well just read the declaration of independence or 10 commandments say don't murder example shown...
It’s literally in the video I posted
Posted on 4/28/25 at 11:32 am to texag7
You cited the highlights there. Not one of them was a Christian belief were founded upon.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 5:46 pm to oklahogjr
quote:It's been done in this very thread. wow
no one can specify those beliefs
quote:It's astonishing. You are literally listing several things that you have been whining about and then you say it hasn't been provided.
just read the declaration of independence or 10 commandments say don't murder
It's hard to understand where you are as a person. These responses are the epitome of fingers in the ears saying "nuh unh" like a 5 year old
quote:You're given a resource that has answers and this is your response. It was suggested to you that you go do some reading and then tell us how it's wrong. I left disappointed
shouldnt need all the extra go read and debate a blog post nonsense
How did you make it through school when the assignment was to write a paper meaning, you have to go do your own research? I'd be willing to bet you were in school before AI could do your homework for you. Did you pay other people to write papers for you? Until you provide some analysis of the resources, you are an unserious person on this topic.
quote:So you're narrowing the goalposts down to "something specifically in the constitution that quotes the Bible." This is literally a case of missing the forest for the trees
here is that same belief in our constitution
quote:You artificially narrowed YOUR criteria to something completely stupid, you won't critique resources given to you and then you say it's a stretch
a pretty big stretch
You absolutely know that if the constitution quoted something from the Bible you and every other half sane liberal would be BITCHING A STORM that the FF tried to set up a theocracy and you would be bleeding all over this board about it.
You are ridiculous and seem infantile.
Here's a question for you since you are being so childishly obtuse - Is there ANYTHING in the declaration of independence that could even remotely be construed as amenable with Christian values? Anything at all. Any word or phrase.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 5:48 pm to oklahogjr
oklahog: You cited the highlights there
also oklahog: Not one of them was a Christian belief were founded upon
So it was done but it wasn't done.
also oklahog: Not one of them was a Christian belief were founded upon
So it was done but it wasn't done.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:04 pm to somethingdifferent
Long story short you still can't answer the question directly.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:47 pm to oklahogjr
I asked you a direct question
When you act like you want to have genuine, adult conversation about the topic, then maybe you'll get somewhere. Until then, you'll continue to be one of the most ridiculed personalities on this board
When you act like you want to have genuine, adult conversation about the topic, then maybe you'll get somewhere. Until then, you'll continue to be one of the most ridiculed personalities on this board
Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:51 pm to oklahogjr
Why won't you address the articles that were linked? Is it because you know you're fighting a losing battle?
Go grab some quotes from them, come back and tell us how they're wrong. It should be easy to educate everybody if you're so right
Go grab some quotes from them, come back and tell us how they're wrong. It should be easy to educate everybody if you're so right
Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:53 pm to theballguy
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Christianity in the western sense is slowly shrinking.
And just look what that’s done to our society.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:57 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Just wanted to get in before the first "the founders were Deists!" post.
Is there something proving that many of the founders weren’t Deist? Just curious, as that’s what I’ve been led to believe when I was researching a long time ago.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:34 pm to oklahogjr
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The separation of Church and State was not in the Constitution
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But then they immediately added it to ensure it was enshrined. Without the first amendment there is no constitutional agreement at the convention....
It amazes me how many people have no idea where “The separation of Church and State” came from.
Christians created the separation of church and state. They lobbied for it and had it passed. Christians did not want a repeat of what happened in England in which the government controlled the church. So to stop this Christians created the “Separation of church from state” to protect the church from the government. This is a good thing for all Christians.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:55 pm to theballguy
quote:Religious wars are usually fought for the same reasons as other wars, power and wealth, for the few at the top pulling the strings. What makes them so insidious, is that the common soldiers often believe in the official line wholeheartedly. Leading to multi-generational, or even multi-century long blood feuds, that they'll proudly sacrifice themselves, their children, and anyone else they're told to.
Religious wars are very stupid wars. Nothing gets accomplished with them. Probably the stupidest of all wars
Posted on 4/29/25 at 9:02 pm to Gus007
quote:And most places they left had some form of Christianity as the official state religion. Which they fled because they faced harassment for or even outright bans and punishments for practicing their own Christian beliefs.
Many of the original settlers left Europe for Religious Freedom.
Could be a lesson in there.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 9:22 pm to ctiger69
quote:This is such an important distinction it bears repeating. The colonists did not want the government infecting the church but they had no problem whatsoever with those in government expressing their religious beliefs in governance. Oklahog isn't going to like this or admit that it matters but they attended worship services in government buildings.
Christians created the “Separation of church from state” to protect the church from the government
It is subtle but they knew that their beliefs were a very solid foundation to build a society on. However, they didn't want a "state religion" and did a pretty darn good job of wording official rules and laws to that effect.
This may not be well known and might not be popular with some people but the main concern was the catholic church. When european leaders sided with protestants, they were attacked by the Catholic church. Yes, the Catholic church had a standing army.
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