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re: Who here would accept a carve-out for rape, health, or “quality of life”?

Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:22 am to
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29250 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:22 am to
I've said it before and I'll say it again: abortion will become illegal if/when a "gay gene" is discovered, because the proggies would lose their shite if they knew people were killing queer babies.

Now, to answer the OP's query, no. An innocent life is still an innocent life. Why should the baby be punished for someone else's crime.

It would be like the NCAA putting GA Tech on probation for Bama paying it's players.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8122 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:24 am to
Giving inch by inch is how we go to the point we did, "on demand up to and including the time of birth".

Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
21755 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:26 am to
Even in the Texas law which is one of,the most extreme these carve outs already exist.
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
1408 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:57 am to
Ok now you are just being obtuse. Obviously I’m talking about if the mothers life is in danger prior to the baby being developed enough to be viable outside the womb. Otherwise they could do a c section to save the mother and still give the baby a chance to survive. And my second point was that even in a moral society that values human life above all else we routinely make exceptions for that in cases of self defense.

It is rather arrogant on your part if you are perfectly fine with the murder of babies as you just admitted to argue this point with me. I thought you represented the option that abortion was a no go in 100% of situations. My reason was for a small infintecmal percentage of situations where there is zero chance for the baby to survive but the mother could if abortion was performed. You are ok with it for rape or incest which means you think it is ok to murder a baby just to protect the mothers feelings, and I’m not downplaying how significant those would be, but still just emotional feelings versus the life of a child. I’m starting to think we actually probably wouldn’t agree on much because you don’t seem capable of reading comprehension and rational thought. Good day sir!!!!

Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
1408 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 8:13 am to
You said this in one post…

“I'm never open to murdering babies. You shouldn't be, either.”

And then in a later post said you were fine with it for rape, incest or health of mother.

You sir are an idiot. At least I am consistent in my beliefs.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 8:21 am to
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Ok now you are just being obtuse.


You're being intellectually inconsistent.

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Obviously I’m talking about if the mothers life is in danger prior to the baby being developed enough to be viable outside the womb. Otherwise they could do a c section to save the mother and still give the baby a chance to survive.


Obviously. But at that point, you're OK with it. But not for rape, incest, underaged mothers, etc.

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And my second point was that even in a moral society that values human life above all else we routinely make exceptions for that in cases of self defense.


I know the point you're trying to make. It's idiotic. If the argument against exceptions for rape is that the baby didn't do anything, it must also extend to the argument here. I don't buy that, because I'm capable of being intellectually consistent.

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It is rather arrogant on your part if you are perfectly fine with the murder of babies as you just admitted to argue this point with me. I thought you represented the option that abortion was a no go in 100% of situations. My reason was for a small infintecmal percentage of situations where there is zero chance for the baby to survive but the mother could if abortion was performed. You are ok with it for rape or incest which means you think it is ok to murder a baby just to protect the mothers feelings, and I’m not downplaying how significant those would be, but still just emotional feelings versus the life of a child.


I'm not fine with murdering babies. I'm just not uneducated enough on the topic to think that abortion is always murdering babies. What I'm hoping you'll come to realize is that to be consistent with the belief that "abortion is always murder" and is always wrong, you have to actually believe that it's always murder and always wrong. All you're really doing is drawing your personal line somewhere different from people who support late-term abortion.

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I’m starting to think we actually probably wouldn’t agree on much because you don’t seem capable of reading comprehension and rational thought. Good day sir!!!!


Well, if you apply the same..."logic" to everything else, no we probably wouldn't agree on much.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 8:23 am to
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At least I am consistent in my beliefs.


No you aren't. You're OK with murdering babies...but only sometimes.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86189 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 8:50 am to
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You are ok with it for rape or incest which means you think it is ok to murder a baby just to protect the mothers feelings, and I’m not downplaying how significant those would be, but still just emotional feelings versus the life of a child.
It's really shocking to me that anyone, anywhere, thinks these exceptions are ok.
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
1408 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 7:59 am to
Now respond to your inconsistent statements.
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