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re: White Nationalist are not White Supremacist
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:11 am to cwill
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:11 am to cwill
I've never heard it used in this context. If you want to associate it w racism, go ahead.
Trump said he was a nationalist in a speech. He did not say "a white nationalist." The media took it from there,as usual.
Trump said he was a nationalist in a speech. He did not say "a white nationalist." The media took it from there,as usual.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:14 am to CDawson
We used to be called Patriots and we came in all skintones.
Now, by using white nationalist..a lot...it creates a trigger point in people's heads .. making them think of white supremacist.
Meanwhile, msm and liberals try to paint authoritarian assholes like antifa as the Patriots.
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 12:14 am
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:21 am to Spirit Of Aggieland
The Proto-Indo-European root for our word “white” is somehow the same root for our word “black.” The Latin root nasci means “to give birth.”
So white nationalism is simply the act of giving birth to black babies. derp
So white nationalism is simply the act of giving birth to black babies. derp
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:27 am to xiv
quote:
The Proto-Indo-European root for our word “white” is somehow the same root for our word “black.” The Latin root nasci means “to give birth.” So white nationalism is simply the act of giving birth to black babies. derp
Ah-ha. Thanks for clearing that up. Now everyone can have a clear conscience.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 3:48 am to Hester Carries
quote:
our self-description has been co-opted by dumbasses who don't represent the things you do, Well then you'd be a complete idiot to try and fit yourself tin there to prove a semantic point
False. It was theirs first.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:13 am to Plx1776
quote:
We used to be called Patriots and we came in all skintones.
Now, by using white nationalist..a lot...it creates a trigger point in people's heads .. making them think of white supremacist.
Meanwhile, msm and liberals try to paint authoritarian assholes like antifa as the Patriots.
Bingo. "Patriots" can be all skin colors. The progressives understand this, so they look to do as they usually do, and subvert their philosophical/policy failings with vagaries in the language. They understand that actions supporting your country (re: Patriotism) can be seen, and exhibited by all skin colors. They need to distill the argument down to pinning something on you that you can't change - i.e. your skin color. If you're white, you MUST be "raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacist".
99% of the "white nationalists" the MSM talks about are actually patriots who happen to be white.
No one's denying the existence of white supremacists, neo-Nazis, etc. Yes, they absolutely are out there, somewhere. The inconvenient truth is, however, that they're not roaming the streets like packs of animals, masks covering their faces as they revel in hitting innocent bystanders in the heads with bike locks, log chains and crowbars because their message is rightfully opposed.
The left is making a full court press to conflate white supremacy with patriotism expressed by Americans who happen to be white.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:14 am to xiv
quote:
So white nationalism is simply the act of giving birth to black babies. derp
Your DU sycophants must be swooning, right now. You get all the hairy-legged bitches, don't you?
Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:17 am to CDawson
quote:FIFY.
White Nationalist are not (necessarily) White Supremacist
Not all white nationalists are white supremacists. Perhaps they are even a minority.
But essentially all white supremacists are white nationalists For all practical intents and purposes, the former is a subset of the latter.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:25 am to CDawson
quote:A Black Panther is simply a panther which happens to be black.
A White Nationalist is simply a white person that loves their country.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:29 am to AggieHank86
quote:
A Black Panther is simply a panther which happens to be black.
ERNNNNT
Black Panthers are a black supremacist group that preach the killing of white people and their babies.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:37 am to Placebeaux
quote:Are you saying that combining two innocuous words can create a phrase which is less innocuous than its component parts?quote:Black Panthers are a black supremacist group that preach the killing of white people and their babies.
A Black Panther is simply a panther which happens to be black.
Gasp
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 8:37 am
Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:54 am to xiv
quote:Of course you don't. Nor does anyone need respect the musings of a nonthinker.quote:Nah. I don’t have to do anything.
I'm simply trying to get you to think
quote:Uncomfortable? I'm disappointed when folks post from a standpoint of ignorance. I am disappointed you lack intellectual curiosity to change that habit for yourself. I am disappointed the MSM lies. But "uncomfortable" is the wrong adjective.
You’re the one uncomfortable with something.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:59 am to AggieHank86
pan·ther
/'panTH?r/
noun
a leopard, especially a black one.
NORTH AMERICAN
a large American wild cat with a plain tawny to grayish coat, found from Canada to Patagonia.
So you see, based on this definition, there is no need to concern yourself with black panthers.
/'panTH?r/
noun
a leopard, especially a black one.
NORTH AMERICAN
a large American wild cat with a plain tawny to grayish coat, found from Canada to Patagonia.
So you see, based on this definition, there is no need to concern yourself with black panthers.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:00 am to AggieHank86
quote:No.
Are you saying that combining two innocuous words can create a phrase which is less innocuous than its component parts?
He is saying calling this . . . .
. . . a black panther, carries with it no racial overtones.
Even though the term "black panther" in other applications does indeed carry a racist meaning.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:03 am to AggieHank86
quote:You are claiming that not to be the case??????
A Black Panther is simply a panther which happens to be black.

Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:06 am to NC_Tigah
quote:I am saying that a black panther and a Black Panther are not the same, just as a white nationalist is not necessarily the same as a White Nationalist. In both cases, the latter has a negative connotation.
A Black Panther is simply a panther which happens to be black.
You are claiming that not to be the case??????
I am also saying that context matters. If one says that a black panther is a natural predator, one would probably want to be certain that one’s listeners are fully cognizant of whether one is using capital letters.
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 9:09 am
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:07 am to AggieHank86
A distinction without a difference is a type of logical fallacy where an author or speaker attempts to describe a distinction between two things where no discernible difference exists.[1] It is particularly used when a word or phrase has connotations associated with it that one party to an argument prefers to avoid.
There is no purpose in discussing a lower case white nationalist just like there is no purpose in discussing a lower case black panther.
When the term is used, it is the Upper Case meaning that is being referenced.
There is no purpose in discussing a lower case white nationalist just like there is no purpose in discussing a lower case black panther.
When the term is used, it is the Upper Case meaning that is being referenced.
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 9:12 am
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