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While we're talking state budgets, this fascinates me...
Posted on 3/6/18 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 3/6/18 at 1:30 pm
La Budget Pre-Katrina was ~$14B. It's more than doubled.
And
How can there be such a disparity in Per Capita spending across the states?
State Budget($B) Per_Capita
Oklahoma 6.8 1,739
Mississippi 6.4 2,139
Georgia 23.7 2,320
Pennsylvania 31.5 2,460
Iowa 8.4 2,689
Texas 106.3 3,870
New Hampshire 5.7 4,284
North Carolina 43.3 4,312
Delaware 4.1 4,334
California 170.9 4,366
Missouri 27.4 4,504
Florida 92.3 4,553
Idaho 7.6 4,592
Nebraska 9 4,746
Indiana 31.9 4,819
Colorado 27.1 4,966
Utah 15.1 5,040
South Dakota 4.5 5,242
Tennessee 34.9 5,288
Arizona 36.6 5,360
South Carolina 26.3 5,372
Michigan 54 5,442
Kansas 15.9 5,461
New Jersey 50.5 5,637
Ohio 65.7 5,657
Connecticut 20.4 5,681
Massachusetts 39.1 5,755
Alabama 30 6,009
Virginia 51.8 6,179
Maine 8.3 6,244
Louisiana 29.2 6,252
Wisconsin 36.9 6,394
West Virginia 12.2 6,616
Illinois 87.4 6,796
Maryland 42.3 7,042
New York 149 7,527
Nevada 23.8 8,233
Rhode Island 8.9 8,426
New Mexico 18.4 8,824
Vermont 5.8 9,265
Hawaii 13.5 9,430
Arkansas 28.6 9,603
Alaska 7.2 9,750
Montana 10.1 9,778
Minnesota 71.3 12,988
Washington 93.7 13,068
Kentucky 66 14,915
Wyoming 9.3 15,867
Oregon 70.9 17,598
North Dakota 14.2 18,760
And
How can there be such a disparity in Per Capita spending across the states?
State Budget($B) Per_Capita
Oklahoma 6.8 1,739
Mississippi 6.4 2,139
Georgia 23.7 2,320
Pennsylvania 31.5 2,460
Iowa 8.4 2,689
Texas 106.3 3,870
New Hampshire 5.7 4,284
North Carolina 43.3 4,312
Delaware 4.1 4,334
California 170.9 4,366
Missouri 27.4 4,504
Florida 92.3 4,553
Idaho 7.6 4,592
Nebraska 9 4,746
Indiana 31.9 4,819
Colorado 27.1 4,966
Utah 15.1 5,040
South Dakota 4.5 5,242
Tennessee 34.9 5,288
Arizona 36.6 5,360
South Carolina 26.3 5,372
Michigan 54 5,442
Kansas 15.9 5,461
New Jersey 50.5 5,637
Ohio 65.7 5,657
Connecticut 20.4 5,681
Massachusetts 39.1 5,755
Alabama 30 6,009
Virginia 51.8 6,179
Maine 8.3 6,244
Louisiana 29.2 6,252
Wisconsin 36.9 6,394
West Virginia 12.2 6,616
Illinois 87.4 6,796
Maryland 42.3 7,042
New York 149 7,527
Nevada 23.8 8,233
Rhode Island 8.9 8,426
New Mexico 18.4 8,824
Vermont 5.8 9,265
Hawaii 13.5 9,430
Arkansas 28.6 9,603
Alaska 7.2 9,750
Montana 10.1 9,778
Minnesota 71.3 12,988
Washington 93.7 13,068
Kentucky 66 14,915
Wyoming 9.3 15,867
Oregon 70.9 17,598
North Dakota 14.2 18,760
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 1:31 pm
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Posted on 3/6/18 at 1:36 pm to Meauxjeaux
Guesses on how many LA State Employees are napping in their tax-payer funded automobiles at the moment?
[over]/under 1,000
Afternoon siesta
[over]/under 1,000
Afternoon siesta
Posted on 3/6/18 at 1:38 pm to Meauxjeaux
It makes sense that sparsely populated states have a higher per capita spend.
Economy of volume and all that stuff...
Economy of volume and all that stuff...
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:26 pm to TigerBait1971
Your premise doesn't match up with reality at all.
State RankwithTerritories RankonlyStates Pop_Density 6_other_BS_stats
New Jersey 2 1 1,218 470 11 8,958,013 46 7,354 19,046.8
Rhode Island 4 2 1,021 394 44 1,056,298 51 1,034 2,678.0
Massachusetts 5 3 871 336 15 6,794,422 45 7,800 20,201.9
Connecticut 8 4 741 286 30 3,590,886 48 4,842 12,540.7
Maryland 10 5 618 238 19 6,006,401 42 9,707 25,141.0
Delaware 11 6 485 187 46 945,934 50 1,949 5,047.9
New York 12 7 420 162 4 19,795,791 30 47,126 122,055.8
Florida 13 8 378 145 3 20,271,272 26 53,625 138,888.1
Pennsylvania 15 9 286 110 6 12,802,503 32 44,743 115,883.8
Ohio 16 10 284 109 7 11,614,373 35 40,861 105,829.5
California 17 11 251 97 1 39,144,818 3 163,696 423,970.7
Illinois 18 12 231 89 5 12,859,995 24 55,519 143,793.5
Hawaii 19 13 222 86 41 1,431,603 47 6,423 16,635.5
Virginia 20 14 212 81 12 8,382,993 36 39,490.09 102,278.9
North Carolina 21 15 206 79 9 10,042,802 29 48,617.91 125,919.8
Indiana 22 16 184 71 16 6,619,680 38 35,826 92,788.9
Georgia 23 17 177 68 8 10,214,860 21 57,513 148,958.0
Michigan 24 18 175 67 10 9,922,576 22 56,539 146,435.3
South Carolina 25 19 162 62 23 4,896,146 40 30,061 77,857.6
Tennessee 26 20 160 61 17 6,600,299 34 41,235 106,798.2
New Hampshire 27 21 148 57 42 1,330,608 44 8,953 23,188.2
Kentucky 28 22 112 43 26 4,425,092 37 39,486 102,268.3
Louisiana 29 23 108 41 25 4,670,724 33 43,204 111,897.8
Washington 30 24 107 41 13 7,170,351 20 66,456 172,120.2
Wisconsin 31 25 106 41 20 5,771,337 25 54,158 140,268.6
Texas 32 26 105 40 2 27,469,114 2 261,232 676,587.8
Alabama 33 27 95 37 24 4,858,979 28 50,645 131,169.9
Missouri 34 28 88 34 18 6,083,672 18 68,742 178,041.0
West Virginia 35 29 76 29 39 1,844,128 41 24,038 62,258.1
Minnesota 36 30 68 26 21 5,489,594 14 79,627 206,233.0
Vermont 37 31 67 26 51 626,042 43 9,217 23,871.9
Mississippi 38 32 63 24 33 2,992,333 31 46,923 121,530.0
Arizona 39 33 60 23 14 6,828,065 6 113,594 294,207.1
Arkansas 40 34 57 22 34 2,978,204 27 52,035 134,770.0
Oklahoma 41 35 57 22 28 3,911,338 19 68,595 177,660.2
Iowa 42 36 55 21 31 3,123,899 23 55,857 144,669.0
Colorado 43 37 52 20 22 5,456,574 8 103,642 268,431.5
Maine 44 38 43 16 43 1,329,328 39 30,843 79,883.0
Oregon 45 39 41 16 27 4,028,977 10 95,988 248,607.8
Utah 46 40 36 14 32 2,995,919 12 82,170 212,819.3
Kansas 47 41 36 14 35 2,911,641 13 81,759 211,754.8
Nevada 48 42 26 10 36 2,890,845 7 109,781 284,331.5
Nebraska 49 43 24 9 38 1,896,190 15 76,824 198,973.2
Idaho 50 44 20 7 40 1,654,930 11 82,643 214,044.4
New Mexico 51 45 17 6 37 2,085,109 5 121,298 314,160.4
South Dakota 52 46 11 4 47 858,469 16 75,811 196,349.6
North Dakota 53 47 10 4 48 756,927 17 69,001 178,711.8
Montana 54 48 7 2 45 1,032,949 4 145,546 376,962.4
Wyoming 55 49 6 2 52 586,107 9 97,093 251,469.7
Alaska 56 50 1 0 49 738,432 1 570,641 1,477,953.4
ETA: removed DC and territories
State RankwithTerritories RankonlyStates Pop_Density 6_other_BS_stats
New Jersey 2 1 1,218 470 11 8,958,013 46 7,354 19,046.8
Rhode Island 4 2 1,021 394 44 1,056,298 51 1,034 2,678.0
Massachusetts 5 3 871 336 15 6,794,422 45 7,800 20,201.9
Connecticut 8 4 741 286 30 3,590,886 48 4,842 12,540.7
Maryland 10 5 618 238 19 6,006,401 42 9,707 25,141.0
Delaware 11 6 485 187 46 945,934 50 1,949 5,047.9
New York 12 7 420 162 4 19,795,791 30 47,126 122,055.8
Florida 13 8 378 145 3 20,271,272 26 53,625 138,888.1
Pennsylvania 15 9 286 110 6 12,802,503 32 44,743 115,883.8
Ohio 16 10 284 109 7 11,614,373 35 40,861 105,829.5
California 17 11 251 97 1 39,144,818 3 163,696 423,970.7
Illinois 18 12 231 89 5 12,859,995 24 55,519 143,793.5
Hawaii 19 13 222 86 41 1,431,603 47 6,423 16,635.5
Virginia 20 14 212 81 12 8,382,993 36 39,490.09 102,278.9
North Carolina 21 15 206 79 9 10,042,802 29 48,617.91 125,919.8
Indiana 22 16 184 71 16 6,619,680 38 35,826 92,788.9
Georgia 23 17 177 68 8 10,214,860 21 57,513 148,958.0
Michigan 24 18 175 67 10 9,922,576 22 56,539 146,435.3
South Carolina 25 19 162 62 23 4,896,146 40 30,061 77,857.6
Tennessee 26 20 160 61 17 6,600,299 34 41,235 106,798.2
New Hampshire 27 21 148 57 42 1,330,608 44 8,953 23,188.2
Kentucky 28 22 112 43 26 4,425,092 37 39,486 102,268.3
Louisiana 29 23 108 41 25 4,670,724 33 43,204 111,897.8
Washington 30 24 107 41 13 7,170,351 20 66,456 172,120.2
Wisconsin 31 25 106 41 20 5,771,337 25 54,158 140,268.6
Texas 32 26 105 40 2 27,469,114 2 261,232 676,587.8
Alabama 33 27 95 37 24 4,858,979 28 50,645 131,169.9
Missouri 34 28 88 34 18 6,083,672 18 68,742 178,041.0
West Virginia 35 29 76 29 39 1,844,128 41 24,038 62,258.1
Minnesota 36 30 68 26 21 5,489,594 14 79,627 206,233.0
Vermont 37 31 67 26 51 626,042 43 9,217 23,871.9
Mississippi 38 32 63 24 33 2,992,333 31 46,923 121,530.0
Arizona 39 33 60 23 14 6,828,065 6 113,594 294,207.1
Arkansas 40 34 57 22 34 2,978,204 27 52,035 134,770.0
Oklahoma 41 35 57 22 28 3,911,338 19 68,595 177,660.2
Iowa 42 36 55 21 31 3,123,899 23 55,857 144,669.0
Colorado 43 37 52 20 22 5,456,574 8 103,642 268,431.5
Maine 44 38 43 16 43 1,329,328 39 30,843 79,883.0
Oregon 45 39 41 16 27 4,028,977 10 95,988 248,607.8
Utah 46 40 36 14 32 2,995,919 12 82,170 212,819.3
Kansas 47 41 36 14 35 2,911,641 13 81,759 211,754.8
Nevada 48 42 26 10 36 2,890,845 7 109,781 284,331.5
Nebraska 49 43 24 9 38 1,896,190 15 76,824 198,973.2
Idaho 50 44 20 7 40 1,654,930 11 82,643 214,044.4
New Mexico 51 45 17 6 37 2,085,109 5 121,298 314,160.4
South Dakota 52 46 11 4 47 858,469 16 75,811 196,349.6
North Dakota 53 47 10 4 48 756,927 17 69,001 178,711.8
Montana 54 48 7 2 45 1,032,949 4 145,546 376,962.4
Wyoming 55 49 6 2 52 586,107 9 97,093 251,469.7
Alaska 56 50 1 0 49 738,432 1 570,641 1,477,953.4
ETA: removed DC and territories
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:36 pm to Meauxjeaux
Most of the state budget is pass through funding, i.e. money from the federal government that is mandated to be spend on specific things. Of the rest, 75% is in dedicated funds established by Constitutional Amendment. The people voted to tax themselves to create funds that can only be used for specific purposes. That means they really only have 25% to play with.
The problem is that a lot of those dedicated funds either:
A. receive too much tax money, causing bloat to justify having such a large budget
B. receive no where near enough money and must be subsidized by the general fund or else face massive shortfalls (TOPS)
C. have statutory automatic rates of increase in their budgets so they get bigger every year while the legislature does nothing about it
Government is consistently growing at a rate faster than economic growth and inflation. Thus, even with increased taxation, there is an ever shrinking pie and an ever-growing budget gap. The problem is obvious: do away with the automatic increases, start proposing amendments to either do away with or reduce the amount of tax monies going to dedicated funds, start making some real structural cuts to higher ed rather than continuing to try to do the same amount just spread thinner and thinner between so many campuses, and start hack-and slashing funding for services that should be done at the local level (i.e. k-12 education).
This is politically impossible because every dollar has a constituency. The funds protect each other so that the legislature cannot start trying to cut one without resistance from them all. There are simple solutions, but no easy ones.
The problem is that a lot of those dedicated funds either:
A. receive too much tax money, causing bloat to justify having such a large budget
B. receive no where near enough money and must be subsidized by the general fund or else face massive shortfalls (TOPS)
C. have statutory automatic rates of increase in their budgets so they get bigger every year while the legislature does nothing about it
Government is consistently growing at a rate faster than economic growth and inflation. Thus, even with increased taxation, there is an ever shrinking pie and an ever-growing budget gap. The problem is obvious: do away with the automatic increases, start proposing amendments to either do away with or reduce the amount of tax monies going to dedicated funds, start making some real structural cuts to higher ed rather than continuing to try to do the same amount just spread thinner and thinner between so many campuses, and start hack-and slashing funding for services that should be done at the local level (i.e. k-12 education).
This is politically impossible because every dollar has a constituency. The funds protect each other so that the legislature cannot start trying to cut one without resistance from them all. There are simple solutions, but no easy ones.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 3:37 pm
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