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Jax-Tiger
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Which of the following is true?
In your opinion.

The impeachment was never about Donald Trump. It was to distract us from seeing corruption that Joe Biden (and others) were guilty of in the Ukraine.

It was important that Joe Biden be the Democratic nominee in order to prevent the Trump administration from carrying out a full fledged investigation on Biden. Openly investigating your general election opponent is not kosher.

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Teddy Ruxpin
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re: Which of the following is true?
I'm not sure your second choice makes any sense.

Any Democrat who won could stop any investigation that would damage the party. He was the best option they had because they had terrible alternative options. They don't even really like him but they will take the "W" if they can get it.

If they thought they could win with another candidate they would have selected that person. They wanted to pretty badly. If they thought Joe would go down and not hurt the party while that happened, again they would have selected someone else and let him drown.
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NineLineBind
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re: Which of the following is true?
I think the impeachment was about covering for the missteps and corruption regarding Hillary Clinton. Biden is the nominee now because he is almost as bad.


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sabanisarustedspoke
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re: Which of the following is true?
The later. Biden automatically gets a pass (criminally) bc he can say his interactions were of national security ALL they really risk is shorterm embarrassment and losing an election they were already gonna lose.


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TrueTiger
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re: Which of the following is true?
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Any Democrat who won could stop any investigation that would damage the party.


But they would be more assured of it if they had someone who was also guilty.

A purist like Bernie may have gone on with the investigation.


Jax-Tiger
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re: Which of the following is true?
At the time of the impeachment, I thought it was political grandstanding. Looking back on it, what Trump was accused of doing, and the evidence presented were both so lame, I wondered why they bothered. Surely they wouldn't go to such lengths to protect Ol' Joe, right? Now I believe they did, but only because Joe is just the tip of the iceberg. She many signs, like Hillary's, "We'll all hang from nooses" comment on election night.

I also think that right after the impeachment hearing, there was talk about Biden dropping out after he underperformed in the first few primaries and Sanders was on a roll. Then, suddenly, the DNC machine got behind him and manhandled him into the frontrunner position. Buttigieg, O'Rourke, Harris, and others supported Biden over Sanders, even though they were more ideologically aligned with Sanders. Something wasn't right.


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Jax-Tiger
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re: Which of the following is true?
I'm not sure your second choice makes any sense.

The Trump administration can't investigate his general election opponent. If Sanders was the Dem nominee, Trump could order an investigation into Biden and the shenanigans in the Ukraine. Im saying that it seems that some very powerful people don't want that to happen, and it ain't because they want to save Joe Biden. Joe ain't the only guy in the game, and I bet there are plenty of Republicans who are guilty, as well.

Many are afraid Trump is going to pull on that thread..,
This post was edited on 10/18 at 1:25 am


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Jax-Tiger
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re: Which of the following is true?
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A purist like Bernie may have gone on with the investigation.


True.


Teddy Ruxpin
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re: Which of the following is true?
Fair enough. I suppose if you allow for other guilty officials who think Biden is a firewall protecting them by his mere candidacy, that could be a workable logical theory.

I've had a few beers and been playing Risk! tonight so I'm spent trying to work the holes in the theory.

Your scenarios being all BS or not is fun to think it out.
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lsuguy84
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re: Which of the following is true?
I believe both are true. They’re the same because Biden’s dealings got other paid as well. Impeachment was to cover and Biden running was to stop the investigation.


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lsuguy84
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re: Which of the following is true?
Additionally, people tend to forget Pelosi’s family, Romney’s family, and John Kerry’s family are tied up in this as well. I don’t believe for one minute Obama wasn’t getting kick backs as well. They were pushing hard for impeachment because they’re all tied into it. Biden is the, if I go down we all go down candidate.


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munchman
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re: Which of the following is true?
Both are true


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thetempleowl
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re: Which of the following is true?
Whatever the dems advise someone of, they have already done.

Clinton's worked with the Russians. Abuse Trump of colluding with Russia.

Various dems quid pro Joe with Ukraine.
Impeach Trump for same.

Time and time again. Answer is the first one.



Jax-Tiger
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re: Which of the following is true?
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Whatever the dems advise someone of, they have already done.


Don't get me wrong, I think this is true, but I also think that the corruption runs deep in both parties and in our intelligence community. Trump is a threat to a lot of people in DC, not just Democrats. There are a lot of Republicans who want Trump to lose but can't say so. Some have already gotten out of the game (Ryan, Flake, Gowdy, etc).


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