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What’s the legal landscape for states breaking up, joining other states, reforming?
Posted on 12/7/19 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 12/7/19 at 10:01 pm
Virginia related obviously
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Posted on 12/7/19 at 10:06 pm to Strannix
It can be done, but requires Congressional approval and referendums, I believe.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 10:13 pm to Strannix
Secession is constitutional.
But to form and be admitted as a new state required approval of Congress
But to form and be admitted as a new state required approval of Congress
Posted on 12/7/19 at 10:20 pm to Strannix
Well that took a civil war...
Posted on 12/7/19 at 10:48 pm to Strannix
If I was to envision a re-organization of the existing 48 contiguous states into their preferred political affiliations it would be NY, CA, WA, OR, CO, DC, the NE and possibly some of the rust belt states for the Dim utopia.....the rest of the country could be set aside for sane Americans.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 11:04 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:As The enemy is mostly gathered in the cities, I would rather see an ancient-Greek style confederation of city-states.
If I was to envision a re-organization of the existing 48 contiguous states into their preferred political affiliations it would be NY, CA, WA, OR, CO, DC, the NE and possibly some of the rust belt states for the Dim utopia.....the rest of the country could be set aside for sane Americans.
We'll keep the land
Posted on 12/8/19 at 12:29 am to Bass Tiger
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if I was to envision a re-organization of the existing 48 contiguous states into their preferred political affiliations it would be NY, CA, WA, OR, CO, DC, the NE and possibly some of the rust belt states for the Dim utopia.....the rest of the country could be set aside for sane Americans.
What you figure, those states produce 75-80-85% of the nation's GDP?
So the remaining states might have the standard of living of say -- Brazil?
Posted on 12/8/19 at 1:08 am to texridder
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What you figure, those states produce 75-80-85% of the nation's GDP?
So close. You're only 40 points off.
NY,CA,WA,OR,DC,CO + ME,NJ,VT,NH,MD,CT,RI,DE,MA is about 40%.
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So the remaining states might have the standard of living of say -- Brazil?
No worries. Once we jack up the price for food, water, and electricity for the blue states, it'll all even out.
Posted on 12/8/19 at 1:42 am to Kafka
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As The enemy i
You need help.
Posted on 12/8/19 at 1:45 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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No worries. Once we jack up the price for food, water, and electricity for the blue states, it'll all even out.
Cali is the nations breadbasket.
The Great Lakes are in the north. And best keep your mouths shut or we damn up the Mississippi.
Electric: you planning in repaying the libs for the tva? Without bleeding hearts and big gov you still would be living in a dirt floor house with kerosene lanterns.
This post was edited on 12/8/19 at 1:47 am
Posted on 12/8/19 at 2:33 am to FightnBobLafollette
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Cali is the nations breadbasket.
Given the ever increasing rate that businesses / people are bailing on California...I'd say that bread has gotten stale with the quickness.
Failin' Bob strikes again. You've now been dick slapped on 2 boards tonight. Good boy, here's a cookie.
This post was edited on 12/8/19 at 2:34 am
Posted on 12/8/19 at 3:20 am to FightnBobLafollette
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Cali is the nations breadbasket.
The Great Lakes are in the north. And best keep your mouths shut or we damn up the Mississippi.
Electric: you planning in repaying the libs for the tva? Without bleeding hearts and big gov you still would be living in a dirt floor house with kerosene lanterns.
You are a liar and a simpleton
Posted on 12/8/19 at 5:27 am to FightnBobLafollette
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Cali is the nations breadbasket.
The Great Lakes are in the north. And best keep your mouths shut or we damn up the Mississippi.
California gets 65% of the water for its agricultural production from out of state
The watershed for the Mississippi comes from 32 states, so good luck “damming” it
Posted on 12/8/19 at 5:34 am to Strannix
I’m not sure...if a bunch of counties wanted to leave Virginia and join West Virginia for instance. The only legal precedent is the formation of West Virginia; the counties that make it up seceded from Virginia to join the union during the civil war.
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:34 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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No worries. Once we jack up the price for food, water, and electricity for the blue states, it'll all even out.
As benevolent director of the TexLaHoma oil cartel I will cap oil prices to our North American brethren at 200 dollars a barrel.
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:36 am to FightnBobLafollette
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And best keep your mouths shut or we damn up the Mississippi.
Why would you want to flood your lands?
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:43 am to FightnBobLafollette
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Electric: you planning in repaying the libs for the tva?
We already did via the Fed and the Wall Street bailouts.
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:55 am to FightnBobLafollette
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Cali is the nations breadbasket.
uhhhh. no. The combination of the Midwest and South far eclipse California’s production. And we can probably do without lettuce that gives you the violent shits.
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:03 am to CleverUserName
I will miss pistachios but not a real breaker ultimately.
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:40 am to BogeyGolf
So neither side really wants States to break off. Because that would create new senators and if the new state was either conservative or liberal, would give them new benefit.
Liberals are saying DC should be a state, but conservatives don't want that to happen because they would always vote for liberals. As far as portions of Virginia joining West Virginia, Virginia wouldn't like that. It would decrease their electoral college votes if much of their population leaves. And right now they are voting liberals so they would never ok it.
Liberals are saying DC should be a state, but conservatives don't want that to happen because they would always vote for liberals. As far as portions of Virginia joining West Virginia, Virginia wouldn't like that. It would decrease their electoral college votes if much of their population leaves. And right now they are voting liberals so they would never ok it.
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