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re: What’s stopping China from invading us if we have to give notice and due process to…
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:17 pm to LSUconvert
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:17 pm to LSUconvert
They're not even truly using the statute correctly in this example.
The example would be, if China invades the US, do the Chinese people living here (legally and illegally) get some due process if we attempt to deporting them using the AEA?
And the answer is yes.
There are rules of war for those who are part of the actual invasion. The AEA isn't this exclusive remedy.
The example would be, if China invades the US, do the Chinese people living here (legally and illegally) get some due process if we attempt to deporting them using the AEA?
And the answer is yes.
There are rules of war for those who are part of the actual invasion. The AEA isn't this exclusive remedy.
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Are we pretending that this particular statue is our only redress against an invasion?
Nope
What's the other option?
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:26 pm to loogaroo
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Nope
What's the other option?
To do what, specifically, and against whom, specifically?
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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To do what, specifically, and against whom, specifically?
To prevent and remedy any invasion or predatory incursion perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government,
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:37 pm to oklahogjr
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Literally the entire purpose of the court system is to provide that check on enforcement.
Not literally….i am an scientist/engineer and detest the bloated government and legal system, propped up on the backs of people like myself….but your statement is only partially correct, and immediately dishonest
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:38 pm to loogaroo
Common sense
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:38 pm to loogaroo
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To prevent and remedy any invasion or predatory incursion perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government,
You do realize that we can detain POWs from an actual invasion, right?
And the AEA is meant to apply to non-military targets, right?
In the War of 1812 (both a declared war and invasion), the law was used to deport British immigrants, not redcoats. We detained redcoats as POWs.
During World War 1 (a declared war), the law was used on German nationals living in the US. No application to soldiers.
During World War 2 (a declared war), the law was used on German, Italian, and Japanese nationals, some of whom were deported. No application to soldiers.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:39 pm to PurpleSingularity
Leftists would help the Chinese more than they helped this last invasion.
part of their "anybody but white people" philosophy
part of their "anybody but white people" philosophy
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You do realize that we can detain POWs from an actual invasion, right?
And the AEA is meant to apply to non-military targets, right?
Exactly!!
Now apply that to tens of millions and having to process each one.
Again...it's not practical or possible. The country will fall.
Imagine standing in a red ant pile and you have to pick each one off separately before you can lift your foot up.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:01 pm to loogaroo
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Exactly!!
Now apply that to tens of millions and having to process each one.
What is this random hypothetical scenario? Tens of millions of...what?
We couldn't process tens of millions of AEA cases, regardless.
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Again...it's not practical or possible. The country will fall.
We couldn't process tens of millions of AEA cases. Even the AEA doesn't make it practical or possible, so what's your point, exactly?
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:03 pm to LSUconvert
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The Constitution says that "meaningless" process is kind of important. I'm sorry you disagree.
The Constitution doesn’t say that we have to have immigration courts and process beady eyed third worlders through them. Foh
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:07 pm to loogaroo
Yeah, they could just start airdropping Chinese in during a time of non-declared war with China. And they would be given a specific time frame to start internal strife, and we couldnt move fast enough in the courts to get them out before their "non-invasion" (see SFP) overwhelms all of our governments; local, state, federal
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What is this random hypothetical scenario? Tens of millions of...what?
We couldn't process tens of millions of AEA cases, regardless.
frick man...you just made my point.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:10 pm to loogaroo
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frick man...you just made my point.
That the AEA is useless in your impossible hypo, even without proper due process?
And you changed your scenario to an impossible one to make that point, it has to be noted
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:12 pm to SammyTiger
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the government moves slowly. as intended.
Ok, so what are the consequences of this in regards to illegal immigration?
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:14 pm to LSUconvert
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mean I suppose that's one way to put it. The Constitution says that "meaningless" process is kind of important. I'm sorry you disagree.
Keep on going….
He says “also deprives me of liberty by allowing illegal aliens to roam free at great risk to me and my family.”
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:15 pm to djsdawg
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He says “also deprives me of liberty by allowing illegal aliens to roam free at great risk to me and my family.”
And that's a retarded attempt at a point.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That the AEA is useless in your impossible hypo, even without proper due process?
And you changed your scenario to an impossible one to make that point, it has to be noted
I didn't change it. SCOTUS did. Two of the criteria of the AEA have been met.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:22 pm to loogaroo
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I didn't change it. SCOTUS did
SCOTUS changed your hypo from an actual invasion to somehow having "tens of millions" of Chinese citizens be dropped off within our border?
...ok
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Two of the criteria of the AEA have been met.
No declared war. No predatory incursion. No invasion.
Most importantly, no relation or relevance to your OP or your recent pivot.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:23 pm to RobbBobb
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Yeah, they could just start airdropping Chinese in during a time of non-declared war with China. And they would be given a specific time frame to start internal strife, and we couldnt move fast enough in the courts to get them out before their "non-invasion" (see SFP) overwhelms all of our governments; local, state, federal
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