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re: What is the rationale for not wanting the files released?

Posted on 11/13/25 at 11:56 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 11:56 am to
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Because that is the ONLY answer, right? No other possibility???



100%

Trump claimed he would have it all released out of "transparency" and now he's claiming he doesnt want your support if you want the files released.

He called his own supporters out over this.

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The Democrats’ “new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this ‘bullshite,’ hook, line, and sinker,” Trump posted on his Truth Social account. “Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats’ work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore!




This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 11:57 am
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
10729 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 11:57 am to
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Evidence is a pretty big reason.




You don't understand this at all and I blame Trump for duping you on this. GJ Files do not = Epstein Files. Two totally separate things.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56686 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 11:58 am to
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100%


For those of us that do not suffer from TDS, this is what we are dealing with here.

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Trump claimed he would have it all released out of "transparency" and now he's claiming he doesnt want your support if you want the files released.


Could it be, that he shot off at the mouth, like he is prone to do, before realizing he actually couldn't release "the files" because of criminal procedure and that whole pesky active investigation thing?

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56686 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 11:59 am to
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You don't understand this at all and I blame Trump for duping you on this. GJ Files do not = Epstein Files


Oh, wait, so you've seen the Epstein Files and the GJ files? Please tell us what is in both so we can make such an accurate read of what is going on.

Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
10729 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:01 pm to
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Oh, wait, so you've seen the Epstein Files and the GJ files? Please tell us what is in both so we can make such an accurate read of what is going on.


They are two separate and distinctly different things. This has been discussed on here before a million times and you still don't understand it. I don't blame you for being gullible I blame Trump for confusing you on purpose and it has apparently worked. You really need to research this a bit more. Of course Grand Jury files aren't going to be released everyone is in agreement on that.
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
407 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:02 pm to
Tom Barrack. He remained Epstein's friend after he was convicted.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293015 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:05 pm to
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For those of us that do not suffer from TDS, this is what we are dealing with here.


Only because you lie to yourelf.


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Could it be, that he shot off at the mouth, like he is prone to do, before realizing he actually couldn't release "the files" because of criminal procedure and that whole pesky active investigation thing?


No. He clearly said he didn't want your support if you think the files should be released.

He's not just waffling, he is THE person desperately trying to keep them from the public.

So, now his little MAGAts furiously renounce their desire to see the file relased and have beomce the GROOMERS.

Groomers.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56686 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:05 pm to
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This has been discussed on here before a million times and you still don't understand it.


Has it? I am not following this board day and night. Please give me a brief explanation of each and how you come to this conclusion. Is it fact based or opinion based?

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I blame Trump for confusing you on purpose and it has apparently worked.


I don't follow Trump day and night either. What did he do to "confuse me"?

Honestly, i chalk the Epstein talk up to Alex Jones type discussions. I just don't care right now. I have my doubts if anything will ever happen, and the hypocrisy of posters here just cements my apathy. The same question that has been asked by me, many times is, if you cared so much, why no threads during the Biden era (not necessarily meaning you)?

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Of course Grand Jury files aren't going to be released everyone is in agreement on that.


So how do YOU know what is GJ files and which are Epstein Files? The only way YOU, ronricks the posters, could have any idea, is if you are part of the investigation, which you are not. So, how are you coming about this knowledge?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16279 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:06 pm to
It basically exists to be a talking point for the opposition party.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293015 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:06 pm to
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So how do YOU know what is GJ files and which are Epstein Files? The only way YOU, ronricks the posters, could have any idea,


We will never know. Do you know why? Because Trump is on the warpath trying to keep them from the people.
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
808 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:07 pm to
In 2025, there's levels to crimes against humanity:

Releasing a biological weapon, conducting the greatest global psyop ever conceived, poison pilling the global economy in furtherance of a coup d' etat ... YEEAAAAAAAAAAA! ( people love Covid to this day with all their myocarditis afflicted hearts)

Global sex trafficking, blackmail and extortion program conducted by nation states, then killing victims and other major players involved and sealing / destroying records to cover it up. BBOOOOOOOOO!
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56686 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:08 pm to
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Only because you lie to yourelf.


So anyone that doesn't have TDS has lied to themselves?



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No. He clearly said he didn't want your support if you think the files should be released.


So Trump doesn't shoot off at the mouth? I could have sworn you hated that about him. Now you don't believe that?

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He's not just waffling, he is THE person desperately trying to keep them from the public


Didn't several people involved with the investigation say that Trump was one of the few people that were open and helping the investigation???

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So, now his little MAGAts furiously renounce their desire to see the file relased and have beomce the GROOMERS.


TDS.... just oozing out of you.
Posted by Scranton
Member since Nov 2025
12 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:09 pm to
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What is the rationale for not wanting the files released?



Because they don't want to go to jail ?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56686 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:09 pm to
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We will never know. Do you know why? Because Trump is on the warpath trying to keep them from the people.


Pipe down, sally. I wasn't asking you.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
10729 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:09 pm to
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So how do YOU know what is GJ files and which are Epstein Files?


I don't have to know what is in either. The GJ Files, Testimony, and Transcripts are never going to be released. Trump knows this. This is what he is saying he wants released (because he knows it can't be) instead of the actual FBI Epstein 'files' which do not need any vote to be released by Trump or Biden. Those are two different things. Do you understand this? Are you a plant baw or something? You seem to be having a hard time understanding this.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463896 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:09 pm to
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It basically exists to be a talking point for the opposition party.


This is true, but the DEMs weren't actively using it when Trump was in office the first time like MAGA-aligned content creators an pols were during the Biden era.

The real silliness is how this has gotten warped by those same MAGA-aligned people who are just making up the dumbest shite about it, like calling it a Democrat hoax, or the "omg you want to watch child porn videos?" nonsense. Multiple posters ITT were absolutely RABID about everything Epstein up until the point where Trump told them not to be.

Don't believe me?

EPSTEIN FILES PHASE 1 is OUT!

Take a trip down memory lane
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 12:12 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293015 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:10 pm to
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TDS.... just oozing out of you.


Youre in a low info cult.


Let me ask you this. Why did Trump say he no longer wanted your support if you want the files "transparent" like he said he would do?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56686 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:11 pm to
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RogerTheShrubber


The fact this is the only portion of that post you quoted is incredibly telling.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
55817 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:12 pm to
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Furthermore, the Epstein Files and Grand Jury testimony are two totally separate things.


ignorant pawn.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293015 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:13 pm to
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The fact this is the only portion of that post you quoted is incredibly telling.


The fact you ignore it is more telling.

Youre desperately trying to defend the indefensible. Thats what being acult member does to your brain.
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