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re: What is CISA And Why Should We Care?
Posted on 3/25/23 at 11:14 am to Toomer Deplorable
Posted on 3/25/23 at 11:14 am to Toomer Deplorable
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Are you “owning” me again?
Have you answered the questions yet?
Oh you haven't? Then yes.
I can just copy and paste while you avoid answering because you can't. That's called rhetoric victory.
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Posted on 3/25/23 at 11:26 am to SlowFlowPro
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Have you answered the questions yet?
We certainly have an answer to the question of whether you are a Grade-A Idiot. And the answer is emphatically YES because you think you come out looking good in this thread!
Posted on 3/25/23 at 11:37 am to Toomer Deplorable
quote:Now take it one step further - WHAT is the genesis of these agencies behaving as they have and continue to attack American citizens
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CIsA
Yeah, exactly.
No matter how you jumble-up the letters of these various alphabet intelligence agencies, they all spell “Deep State.”
Yet the smart set, as exemplified by the board’s smartest lawyer above, will tell us slack-jawed, knuckle-dragging rubes that terms like the “Deep State” are just made-up boogey-man words with no meaningful import.
The important thing is the question - WHO IS DOING THIS? WHO IS BEHIND ALL OF IT?
WHO IS CONTROLLING the US GOVERNMENT?
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 3/25/23 at 11:49 am to Toomer Deplorable
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We certainly have an answer to the question of whether you are a Grade-A Idiot.
The fact that you don't have the intellectual capabilities to honestly answer shows that Iam an idiot?
Posted on 3/25/23 at 11:50 am to Toomer Deplorable
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What authority do you think CISA used?
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Where did I say that they had that authority? They don't.
Tell me where the federal government exercised that authority.
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What specific powers are you referencing CISA having?
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Do you think that CISA ordered other agencies (federal or state) to do the things referenced in your OP?
You do understand that CISA is mandated to issue guidance on infrastructure issues, right?
Posted on 3/25/23 at 11:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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The fact that you don't have the intellectual capabilities to honestly answer shows that Iam an idiot?
And the fact you think your blatant goal-post maneuvering in this thread is not seen for what it is tells us all we need to know about you.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 12:01 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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blatant goal-post maneuvering
What posts, specifically?
This was my original post:
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So what behavior is specifically violating the wording of the 2018 law?
Can you cite the behaviors and applicable language?
How is that different than any other argument I've made or my summary?
My argument was always that your characterization in OP never existed so there was no violation of the actual law.
Oh, and
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What authority do you think CISA used?
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Where did I say that they had that authority? They don't.
Tell me where the federal government exercised that authority.
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What specific powers are you referencing CISA having?
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Do you think that CISA ordered other agencies (federal or state) to do the things referenced in your OP?
You do understand that CISA is mandated to issue guidance on infrastructure issues, right?
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 3/25/23 at 12:19 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
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Now take it one step further - WHAT is the genesis of these agencies behaving as they have and continue to attack American citizens
The important thing is the question - WHO IS DOING THIS? WHO IS BEND IT?
WHO IS CONTROLLING the US GOVERNMENT?
It certainly is not “We The People.”
If you believe in such quaint notions as natural rights, the principles of limited government and religious liberty, the Feral Government of the United States largely views you as a radical threat to it’s mission.
The U.S. government has repeatedly labeled evangelical Christians, traditional Catholics and Orthodox Jews as potential religious terrorists.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 1:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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My argument was always that your characterization in OP never existed so there was no violation of the actual law.
Yes, and once again, that was because there was no provisions whatsoever in the bill for CISA to have any say in locking down major sectors of the economy in the event of a pandemic. End of thread, end of discussion!
Yet it never ends with you! As much as I enjoy seeing this thread — and your patented dumbassery— at the top of the page, you really should do yourself a favor and quit humiliating yourself by continuing to bump this thread.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 1:59 pm to frogtown
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You won't be popular here. CISA 2018
Look it up. You will find you are wrong.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 2:06 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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because there was no provisions whatsoever in the bill for CISA to have any say in locking down major sectors of the economy
CISA never did "lock down major sectors of the economy", though.
That's the issue with your entire argument. That characterization never existed.
Your original quote:
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You direct me to the specific language in the bill — ostensibly passed to protect against cybersecurity terror threats — which enables CISA to declare a state of de facto martial law over the entire economy because of a supposed naturally occurring biological contagion?
Your statement above is trying to move the goal posts by NOW adding "to have any say". Naw dog. No goalpost moving. You're stuck with your original quote
They issued regulatory guidance with no force or authority.
Issuing regulatory guidance is mandated by CISA
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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1. CISA never was co-opted or operated outside of its statutory mandate
2. CISA never "declared a state of de facto martial law over the entire economy"
3. CISA is " to offer guidance for threats to critical infrastructure, which is all it did.
So naive. Telling us what CISA's "statutory mandates" are, & what is "mandated by statute" means absolutely nothing. They are just another avenue for plausible deniability, the gathering/sharing of data/info, & "direct" gov't involvement in elections.
Yet another extension/by-product of the HAVA Act.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:28 pm to 2020_reVISION
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So naive. Telling us what CISA's "statutory mandates" are, & what is "mandated by statute" means absolutely nothing.
In response to this question?
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You direct me to the specific language in the bill — ostensibly passed to protect against cybersecurity terror threats — which enables CISA to declare a state of de facto martial law over the entire economy because of a supposed naturally occurring biological contagion?
Telling you what the statute actually says, when asked a question specifically requesting the "specific language of the statute" means nothing for this discussion? Please explain. I'd love to hear this.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Issuing regulatory guidance is mandated by CISA
And here we are — once again — back to square one.
You direct me to the specific language in the bill — ostensibly passed to protect our nation against cybersecurity terror threats — which granted CISA such “regulatory guidance” during a pandemic?
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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2022 because Zelensky ousted the party/leader we supported in 2022.
Still hanging on to this asinine point with everything ya got huh?
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:42 pm to 2020_reVISION
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Telling us what CISA's "statutory mandates" are, & what is "mandated by statute" means absolutely nothing. They are just another avenue for plausible deniability, the gathering/sharing of data/info, & "direct" gov't involvement in elections.
You are wasting your time engaging in any discussion with SFP. I merely am doing so for my own amusement.
Somewhere, a circus is missing their clown. I think we have found him.
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Telling you what the statute actually says, when asked a question specifically requesting the "specific language of the statute" means nothing for this discussion? Please explain. I'd love to hear this
And nothing in the CISA statue mentions pandemics you freaking imbecilic clown!
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:45 pm to Toomer Deplorable
The MSM made sure the Twitter files died quickly....
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:51 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Still hanging on to this asinine point with everything ya got huh?
That quote is from months ago. This is a bumped thread just FYI
Posted on 3/25/23 at 4:12 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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You direct me to the specific language in the bill — ostensibly passed to protect our nation against cybersecurity terror threats — which granted CISA such “regulatory guidance” during a pandemic?
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`(e) Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Authorities of the Secretary.--
``(1) In general.--The responsibilities of the Secretary relating to cybersecurity and infrastructure security shall include the following:
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(C) Recommendations. To integrate relevant information, analysis, and vulnerability assessments, regardless of whether the information, analysis, or assessments are provided or produced by the Department, in order to make recommendations, including prioritization, for protective and support measures by the Department, other Federal Government agencies, State, local, tribal, and territorial government agencies and authorities, the private sector, and other entities regarding terrorist and other threats to homeland security.
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(E) Coordination. Plan. To develop, in coordination with the Sector-Specific Agencies with available expertise, a comprehensive national plan for securing the key resources and critical infrastructure of the United States, including power production, generation, and distribution systems, information technology and telecommunications systems (including satellites), electronic financial and property record storage and transmission systems, emergency communications systems, and the physical and technological assets that support those systems.
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`(F) Recommendations. To recommend measures necessary to protect the key resources and critical infrastructure of the United States in coordination with other Federal Government agencies, including Sector-Specific Agencies, and in cooperation with State, local, tribal, and territorial government agencies and authorities, the private sector, and other entities.
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