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Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:56 am to VoxDawg
quote:Techno Fog does. He has never posted on all the sealed indictments as far as I know.
I don't personally have access to the PACER system. To my understanding, that is limited to law professionals who pay for access.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:07 am to cajunangelle
Good call. I just DM'ed him about it. I'll be curious to see if he responds, and his thoughts if so.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:19 am to VoxDawg
Thanks, if anyone would know he would.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 12:33 pm to cajunangelle
To answer your question about Veselnitskaya - I haven't seen a single update about her since all of the MSM stories broke on Jan 8/9 of this year.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 12:42 pm to VoxDawg
quote:
Thanks for the additional info. It's definitely good to see someone else has done some digging.
It's tangible; I can see it on paper. I like things that I can see.
It's unusual too.
We shall see.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:22 pm to dstone12
quote:
Did any of them ever amount to anything or are they still sealed?
Just as an add on...there have been several thousand documents unsealed in PACER, some noteworthy like most of the NXIVM bust, and we'll see if Op Broken Heart was an unsealing...
Here's an example of one of the unsealed documents in the NXIVM case...
NXIVM Memo unsealed
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:41 pm to IceTiger
For those not familiar:
Nearly 1,700 Suspected Child Sex Predators Arrested During Operation "Broken Heart"
Nearly 1,700 Suspected Child Sex Predators Arrested During Operation "Broken Heart"
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:44 pm to TSLG
Trust Sessions! LOL
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:47 pm to VoxDawg
quote:
To my understanding, that is limited to law professionals who pay for access.
Civilian org's that do background checks on prospective employees also pay to have access to the system. I know someone with access to it.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:42 pm to cajunangelle
TF just messaged back. He's very non-committal about his response. Says there could be any number of explanations for the historically-disproportionate number of sealed records.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:45 pm to Crimson Wraith
The only folks I know in the legal profession are incredibly aloof a out answering questions about why the number is so high.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:36 pm to VoxDawg
Would love to be a fly on the wall during these conversations.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 6:34 am to VoxDawg
So no one has any clue what they are talking about in this thread and have to defer to lawyers who don’t have the time to deal with conspiracy theories ?
This post was edited on 6/13/19 at 6:34 am
Posted on 6/13/19 at 6:38 am to IceTiger
Interesting. Thanks. Isn't there a difference in a memo and sealed indictments? I am sure NXIVM equates in busts of a lot of people. I sure hope so. Does NXIVM extend across the pond possibly under another auspice?
This post was edited on 6/13/19 at 6:41 am
Posted on 6/13/19 at 6:39 am to VoxDawg
quote:Thanks. I am shocked he replied to you. That's great that he did.
TF just messaged back. He's very non-committal about his response. Says there could be any number of explanations for the historically-disproportionate number of sealed records.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 6:43 am to VoxDawg
I file cases into the federal court system that are sealed from public view. They’re entirely civil matters and are in no way indictments.
Just an FYI to make sure whomever is curating the PACER info really knows they’re looking at sealed indictments rather than other types of sealed cases.
Just an FYI to make sure whomever is curating the PACER info really knows they’re looking at sealed indictments rather than other types of sealed cases.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 6:44 am to hubertcumberdale
The PACER data on number of sealed records/indictments is not up for debate.
There approximately 25X the number of same sealed docs filed in the past 2 years when compared to previous averages. They might not all be indictments, but on the spectrum we discussed earlier, it sure as shite isn't "There aren't any".
There approximately 25X the number of same sealed docs filed in the past 2 years when compared to previous averages. They might not all be indictments, but on the spectrum we discussed earlier, it sure as shite isn't "There aren't any".
Posted on 6/13/19 at 6:49 am to boosiebadazz
quote:
Just an FYI to make sure whomever is curating the PACER info really knows they’re looking at sealed indictments rather than other types of sealed cases.
Given that there are a dozen individuals with PACER access working independently on compiling this information, I have to assume this is correct.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 6:59 am to boosiebadazz
quote:
file cases into the federal court system that are sealed from public view. They’re entirely civil matters and are in no way indictments
Sure, as do most people, see below
quote:
Just an FYI to make sure whomever is curating the PACER info really knows they’re looking at sealed indictments rather than other types of sealed cases
Historical averages in PACER show 1 in about 9 were indictments...
Usually indicting multiple people at a time.
IF (big IF) average is indicative, then roughly 12k are indictments...other documents are supporting evidence, etc.
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