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re: What do y’all think about secession?

Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:37 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:37 pm to
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Everyone for secession should tell us the most personal and direct thing that’s happened to you or your family that leads you to favor secession.



Or if they’re willing to sacrifice their kid if war comes down in the current particular environment.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:38 pm to
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Everyone for secession should tell us the most personal and direct thing that’s happened to you or your family that leads you to favor secession


The ratification of the Constitution.

The ratification of the Bill of Rights
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80229 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:38 pm to
Noted. Next.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28613 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:39 pm to
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Hardcore Progressives/Socialists are no different than Muslims. This isn't how they play the game. Too late for that I'm afraid.


I tend to agree. BUT, 20+ years ago I'd never have argued that the right would become the party of tolerance either while the left became facist, but I would have been wrong.

Humans are cyclic.
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 10:40 pm
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:40 pm to
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If you want to cherry pick
The government was allowed to keep people from going to school based on their race. That’s definitively way more intrusive than today’s government, and you’re insane if you disagree.
Posted by TurboDogTiger
Triangle, NC
Member since Feb 2007
828 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:45 pm to
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The progressives will do anything they can to squash our liberties and destroy capitalism. They hate freedom. They hate human flourishing.


Really? Examples please?

I don't want to destroy capitalism, I don't want to squash your liberties, and I definitely don't hate freedom and OMG, I'm a liberal.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
103682 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:49 pm to
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If he won’t do anything about it, then why would you vote for him?
I never mentioned anything about voting for Trump and that's not what this thread is about. Where did this come from?
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28613 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:49 pm to
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Really? Examples please?


Protests for politicians at dinner.
Antifa riots
Censorship from silicon valley
Hollywood elites speaking vile and displacing threats in a one sided fashion
MSM being grossly left leaning
Protests that shut down Shapiro or others that have different opinions etc

I could go on.
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 10:50 pm
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9098 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:50 pm to
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Everyone for secession should tell us the most personal and direct thing that’s happened to you or your family that leads you to favor secession.



1) Any and all forms of income taxes, which crush my ability to save money, have a better standard of living and more secure future. This one affects me, and my employees, most directly.

2) The war on drugs, which has made crime way worse than it would otherwise be.

3) The loss of life and growing list of casualties because of the constant military adventurism.

4) The insane amount of debt and off the books liabilities we taxpayers are on the hook for. frick that.

Those are just off the top of my head.

Look around you; What isn't regulated by the federal government?
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:50 pm to
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never have argued that the right would become the party of toleranc


Lol
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80229 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:52 pm to
1 fits the description, but you get pretty conceptual at 2-5. I need direct instances of gonvenrment overreach warranting secession .
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 10:53 pm
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9098 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:52 pm to
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I don't want to destroy capitalism, I don't want to squash your liberties, and I definitely don't hate freedom


Should I be able to opt out of Social Security?
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
103682 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:54 pm to
Why does someone who disagrees with you morally and politically have to prove to you that their reasoning is OK with you before they call for secession? What kind of warped thinking is that?
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28613 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:55 pm to
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Lol


Laugh all you want. But todays liberal has become tomorrow's conservative for decades now. at least a couple decades. and while the left cant sprint faster towards a more aggressively liberal and progressive mentality, the right stays largely unchanged in their ideals... but mostly want to live anand let live.

There is no equivalent on the right to the actions of the left. I do truly believe in TDS.
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 10:56 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80229 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:55 pm to
So no concrete examples? Just talking tough on the internet for your friends?
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:55 pm to
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Protests for politicians at dinner.
Antifa riots
Censorship from silicon valley
Hollywood elites speaking vile and displacing threats in a one sided fashion
MSM being grossly left leaning
Protests that shut down Shapiro or others that have different opinions etc
Of these, only antifa is an example of a hope to destroy capitalism and a hatred for freedom, and by no means are they mainstream left.
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I could go on.
Yeah, I guess you could.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98773 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:55 pm to
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Should I be able to opt out of Social Security?


Yes

You should have the option to waive what you have put in to date, and continue to pay 50% of SS taxes, in exchange for the option of putting the other 50% (tax free) into the investment of you choice.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
103682 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:56 pm to
I'm not "talking tough on the Internet". I'm trying to bend my brain to see how any of this would make sense to a normal person.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80229 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:57 pm to
How what would make sense? Secession or questioning secession?
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28613 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:57 pm to
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Of these, only antifa is an example of a hope to destroy capitalism and a hatred for freedom, and by no means are they mainstream left.


Explain to me how Cortez just got elected. How Gillum nearly did. Why the youth of America are 60%+ in favor of socialism. Why the googles/twitters/fbs of the world sensor so openly?
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 10:59 pm
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