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re: What are your reasons for believing climate change is "a hoax"

Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63332 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:29 pm to
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If you could show that, for example, radiative forcing of CO2 and other greenhouse gases emitted by humans was not a driver of climate, then problem solved. No global warming.
Awwww. A single-variable climate model. You’re so cute.

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That's why the opposite is shown
No.

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and you believe in a conspiracy theory.
What theory is that exactly?
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 2:30 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:32 pm to
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Awwww. A single-variable climate model. You’re so cute.


Yeah

But it beats "I can count"
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:32 pm to
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You might want to look him up.


Like, here?
Posted by Pdubntrub
Member since Jan 2018
1779 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:38 pm to
Post any evidence that CO2 is bad for plants. Its retarded
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63332 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:39 pm to
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But it beats "I can count"
Its actually more insidious. People think it’s “scientific”. It’s about as scientific as saying that since aspirin cures headaches, it’s a good cure for a brain tumor.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:40 pm to
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Its actually more insidious. People think it’s “scientific”.


Oh. I get that he tries to play the Spidey, "let me show I'm smart" game when you know he's just cutting and pasting from climate sites or simply hoping to ward off non-scientific people from responding.

But, I can work with that in terms of rebuttal.

"Muh, more people" isn't even an argument.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:41 pm to
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I can't help you comprehend English

No, you can't. You can hardly make a rational point.

I don't really care enough about your position to actually read your posts, I just think shite you says is inadvertently funny a lot of the time.

Like here:
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I pull Wheat Cents out of my penny jar and call it "Finance"!!1!

LINK



You've confessed to having your IQ reduced every time you read one of my posts. Keep it up.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:42 pm to
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Awwww. A single-variable climate model.


Go ahead and show us your multi-variable model that shows humans aren't a source of warming.

Because there are models that say you're full of shite...

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What theory is that exactly


That global warming is some global scientific hoax.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:44 pm to
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No, you can't. You can hardly make a rational point.
I'm honored. I've seen what you think is rational.

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I don't really care enough about your position to actually read your posts,

So you admit you approached from ignorance. Thanks.

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I just think shite you says is inadvertently funny a lot of the time.
Well, that will happen when you don't read as you admit above you don't.
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I pull Wheat Cents out of my penny jar and call it "Finance"!!1!
I don't even know what you think that link shows. You have a problem with my source of income?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:44 pm to
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Exceptional rebuttal


Longer rebuttal:

If you think that funding for a study that would have a null hypothesis that the earth isn't warming from anthropogenic causes (or isn't warming in an aberrant way compared to historical trends) would only be funded by fossil fuel companies - and that was the premise of your 'point', let's not forget - then you lack basic comprehension around research funding and grant proposal processes as to render your opinion on the subject meaningless.

tl;dr That's not how this works
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95637 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:45 pm to
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Go ahead and show us your multi-variable model that shows humans aren't a source of warming.


This is wild - so, force the other side to prove a negative or accept their blatantly religious belief system?

Okay, I can play:

Show us your multi-variable model that proves there is no God and that Jesus Christ didn't make Peter the leader of the church or start going to communion, baw. (Or guh - or however you choose to self-identify.)
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:45 pm to
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100% of Christians believe that Jesus was the divine son of a deity, and that eternal damnation awaits those whose sins are grievous enough


The difference is that Christians have no empirical, rigorous data to back up their beliefs. They're just taking it on faith.

Climate scientists do have such data. They don't need to take it on faith, they can run the numbers.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63332 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:46 pm to
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Go ahead and show us your multi-variable model that shows humans aren't a source of warming.
Its your claim, it’s your burden. Show us one that does. And good luck to you. They foldmks at UCAR, UEA, and PSU have yet to produce. But maybe you know something they don’t.

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Because there are models that say you're full of shite...
Nope.

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That global warming is some global scientific hoax.
Where did I make that claim?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63332 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:49 pm to
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Oh. I get that he tries to play the Spidey, "let me show I'm smart" game when you know he's just cutting and pasting from climate sites or simply hoping to ward off non-scientific people from responding.
Gotcha. I think if it in Dunning -Krueger terms. They actually think they are more correct (science by proxy!!) than the intelligence by proxy crowd. So they dig in even harder.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:49 pm to
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This is wild - so, force the other side to prove a negative or accept their blatantly religious belief system?


If you're going to discount something that's been proven to be true in the opposite sense, then yes. You'll need data.

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Show us your multi-variable model that proves there is no God and that Jesus Christ didn't make Peter the leader of the church


And there's your main problem - you don't understand the difference between science and religion. Maybe some day you will, and you'll be better for it. But today is obviously not that day.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:50 pm to
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The earth's climate has been "changing" for 4.5 billions years. This is a fact. The conspiracy is that the liberals think that by taxing and redistributing my wealth, they can change this.


/EoT
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63332 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:51 pm to
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would have a null hypothesis that the earth isn't warming from anthropogenic causes
I bet “try to prove a negative” sounded a lot smarter in your head than it did after you posted it.

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That's not how this works
Indeed!!
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 2:52 pm
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:52 pm to
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And there's your main problem - you don't understand the difference between science and religion. Maybe some day you will, and you'll be better for it. But today is obviously not that day.


In other words, you can't. Got it.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63332 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:52 pm to
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This is wild - so, force the other side to prove a negative or accept their blatantly religious belief system?
Or a better example... prove BamaATL isn’t a child molester.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63332 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:53 pm to
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Climate scientists do have such data.
So compliant. So well programmed.
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