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re: What are your reasons for believing climate change is "a hoax"

Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:06 pm to
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Which to powerman means “they are conservatives”.

What he doesn’t realize is many like myself once “believed” in it. It sounds reasonable. The you start digging in and.... there are serious technical problems with theory and the work of those


what's funny is, Pman not only dismisses anyone on the board as "not a scientist" but also dismisses ALL actual scientists who don't toe the line.

But what do we expect from a guy who has now repeatedly used the 97% number that even the climate people admit is debunked and was based on flawed methodology.

Basically, Pman's sum total of knowledge isn't even "I know cause smart people told me".

It's, "I know because CNN told me what smart people said".
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:08 pm to
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What he doesn’t realize is many like myself once “believed” in it. It sounds reasonable. The you start digging in and.... there are serious technical problems with theory and the work of those promo

I should add that it's funny because Pman acts like at least learning enough to understand the scientific pitch doesn't require one to be a climate scientist.

He could at least go to THAT much effort.

But, I guess that squeezes in to his Grand Theft Auto time. So. Just count.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63332 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:09 pm to
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Because it's a valid point.

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Take a basic logic class and get back to us once you figure out what you’re doing.

This thread is classic Dunning-Krueger. He’s al(apparently) incapable of understanding his own error. So he presumed he’s right and digs in further.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 2:09 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:09 pm to
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Curiously, you don’t list “learn the f*cking science” as a rational option. That’s telling.

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ZERO of my arguments for my concerns have been science based.


Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:11 pm to
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WildTchoupitoulas


What's funny is that you cut and pasted those without knowing the conversation.

So. What you think is a gotcha actually illustrated my point.

About what I expected from ya.

Thanks.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63332 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:12 pm to
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Then....he literally argues that attempting to evaluate and form your own opinions is an example of stupidity.
Politicians love people like this. They are the ones that vote for the candidate they expect to win. To be “on the right side of history”. Or some such bs.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63332 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:13 pm to
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Now, I realize he's just a fairly pedestrian intellect who thinks agreeing with smart people makes him smart.
Intelligence by proxy.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:13 pm to
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This thread is classic Dunning-Krueger. He’s al(apparently) incapable of understanding his own error. So he presumed he’s right and digs in further.


hell. He probably thinks he's figured out why the logical fallacy ISN'T one.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63332 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:14 pm to
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It's fun when people use a rhetorical approach that they seem to think is unique that everyone else has already seen in Jr High debate club.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:17 pm to
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It's fun when people use a rhetorical approach that they seem to think is unique that everyone else has already seen in Jr High debate club.

It's funny cause, if I'm being honest, I occasionally use that particular rhetorical approach too. But that's just because an amazing number of people are stupid enough to fall for it.

But when they don't, you're supposed to have the intellectual wherewithal to bow out of it.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63332 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:17 pm to
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What's funny is that you cut and pasted those without knowing the conversation.
Not even the same person
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 2:18 pm
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:18 pm to
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When did I say that?



shite I don't know, 5 years ago during a discussion on shrimp treadmills or some such nonsense.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:19 pm to
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If the ONLY place you can get funded to do research counter to the dogma is the fossil fuel companies


It's not, idiot.
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:20 pm to
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If 97% of climate scientists think that man made climate change is real is that standard of proof too low for you?



100% of Christians believe that Jesus was the divine son of a deity, and that eternal damnation awaits those whose sins are grievous enough. Is this across the board consensus on the subject sufficient to convince you that these suppositions are true?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:21 pm to
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existence of warming does not establish causality.


Not warming due to anthropogenic effects - sorry for not spelling it out for you, I assumed you were at least versed in the basics here.

If you could show that, for example, radiative forcing of CO2 and other greenhouse gases emitted by humans was not a driver of climate, then problem solved. No global warming.

That's why the opposite is shown, and you believe in a conspiracy theory.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23946 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:22 pm to
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s pointed out earlier this was a creation from the Bush administration.


umm... there is this guy named Al Gore.

You might want to look him up.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:24 pm to
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without knowing the conversation.



There is no such thing as an AGW "conversation" on the Poli board - which is exemplified by your appeal to ignorance of science as you attempt to make a 'point'.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:25 pm to
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There is no such thing as an AGW "conversation" on the Poli board - which is exemplified by your appeal to ignorance of science as you attempt to make a 'point'.



Swing and another miss. I can't help you comprehend English. I can only point you in the right direction.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:25 pm to
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It's not, idiot.


Exceptional rebuttal

Idiot
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:27 pm to
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Not warming due to anthropogenic effects - sorry for not spelling it out for you, I assumed you were at least versed in the basics here.

If you could show that, for example, radiative forcing of CO2 and other greenhouse gases emitted by humans was not a driver of climate, then problem solved. No global warming.

See Pman

BamaAtl is full of shite..........but at least Bama ain't making the "duh......um, look......I can count" argument.
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