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re: What a Government Shutdown Means
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:22 pm to TBoy
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:22 pm to TBoy
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You can't honestly believe that Trump shutting down the government will stop illegal immigration? No one can be that brainwashed.
No I don't think the wall will bring it zero, but I do believe that the reduction due to it will be dramatic and much more manageable.
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:46 pm to Dale51
quote:More difficult won't stop them.
Would a wall make it easier or more difficult to cross the border?
They'll just need a sixty foot piece of rope, or an extension ladder, or just cross where it's not. Because 5billion won't build a 30foot by 2000 mile wall and the Mexican's aren't going to pick up the balance. Just more Trump fantasy for the white nationalist party to drool over while voting yes to pie in the sky rhetoric. Sure you don't need much to cross a chain link fence or the Rio Grande; but whatever is built it'll be quickly and easily overcome once seen.
Some of these guys just marched across Mexico from bottom to top from some South American shite hole... a thirty foot wall
is next to nothing for the land of opportunity. (stop the employers - you stop the opportunity)Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:10 pm to Dale51
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The highest number possible...
Don't you agree?
I, and I think any reasonable person, would agree with your implication that 100% is not possible.
Given that you cannot achieve 100% success with keeping them out, you may get infinitesimally close to 100%. So let's call 100% an "asymptote". Now picture your cost curve as you approach that asymptote. It grows exponentially approaching an infinite cost. How high up that cost curve are you willing to go?
That question should be answered with at least one factor, what is the cost of the immigrants you want to keep out? Why would you want to spend more to keep them out than they're costing you in the first place? You must determine their NET cost to the economy - all the value they add, minus their total cost. Then you have to ask yourself, are there more cost efficient means than a wall to offset the economic cost - more immigrants stopped per dollar spent?
What if their contribution is a net positive to the economy as a whole?
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Why would their economic problems be ours to solve??
First, because their economic problems are causing US economic problems.
Second, because we helped them get into the mess they're in now.
Third, because, as I pointed out before, both parties would benefit from the solution.
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