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re: Were the Memphis cops members of the "Vice Lords" gang?
Posted on 1/29/23 at 7:48 pm to imjustafatkid
Posted on 1/29/23 at 7:48 pm to imjustafatkid
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This is hilarious coming from someone like you who pushed the Russia collision and Russian bot hoaxes.
Link? There’s a full record of everything I’ve ever posted. Go.
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 7:57 pm to LookSquirrel
Either they were working for a 3rd party or this was personal.
And personal would have been handled way differently starting with no more than 2 LEO so I don't think it was that.
Possibly enforcement/message on behalf of 3rd party with a mistaken identity. Possibly "silver or lead" situation where kid refused to move product via his job with FedEx.
The one thing this was NOT was a routine traffic stop gone wrong.
And personal would have been handled way differently starting with no more than 2 LEO so I don't think it was that.
Possibly enforcement/message on behalf of 3rd party with a mistaken identity. Possibly "silver or lead" situation where kid refused to move product via his job with FedEx.
The one thing this was NOT was a routine traffic stop gone wrong.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 7:59 pm to I20goon
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The one thing this was NOT was a routine traffic stop gone wrong.
Obviously.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:04 pm to cwill
So you agree with the fact that there was no Russian collision & it was all made up by Hillary’s Attorney’s after she lost?
Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:06 pm to LookSquirrel
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they somehow were hired because the standards have dropped since police departments have had a hard time hiring, due to BLM movement
Talk about an epic backfire.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 6:11 am to LookSquirrel
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any notable occurrences, 68?
Plenty, since 1970, according to WIKI,
Almighty Vice Lord Nation
LINK
Mafia likes to get their hooks into cops too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Caracappa_and_Louis_Eppolito
Stephen Caracappa and Louis Eppolito were former New York City Police Department (NYPD) detectives who worked on behalf of the Five Families of the American Mafia, principally the Lucchese and Gambino crime families, while they committed various illegal activities. The two became known as the "Mafia Cops".[1]
The United States Attorney for the Eastern District of New York indicted Caracappa and Eppolito in 2005 on charges of racketeering conspiracy for a pattern of murders, kidnappings, witness tampering, obstruction of justice, money laundering, and narcotics dealing with mobsters and mob associates. The acts stretched from the 1980s in New York City to the 2000s in Las Vegas. Both were convicted in 2006, and sentenced to life imprisonment in 2009.[2][3][4] Both died in prison in the late 2010s.[5][6]
Posted on 1/30/23 at 7:03 am to LookSquirrel
They were irrefutably members of the largest gang of criminals in the United States. They were cops. There central theme and the foundation of their business model is to violate the laws of the United States in order to make arrests. They think nothing of violating civil rights and seizing property without any due process, both illegal activities if you aren't a cop, and the evidence is abundantly clear that they can murder folks without any fear of prosecution until recently and only after a wave of civil unrest. I don't doubt that many are on the payroll of all manner of criminal organizations but every last one of them is facilitating illegal activity sanctioned by the state in order to placate the irrational fears of citizens. Why we put up with and, in the process, foot the bill is beyond me but the majority of folks are convinced that the world would devolve into chaos if you even ask if the money is well spent....
Posted on 1/30/23 at 7:14 am to Hetfield
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The rumors are out there & it makes complete sense that this was not a normal traffic stop. This was personal & it was planned. I can't wait for the actual truth to come out.
This one has a significantly different feel to it than the majority and, given that the state indicted them almost immediately and has released the body cam footage to bolster public support for that action, it is not beyond the scope of possibility that at least some of the 5 meant to throw Nichols a beating, if not murder him, for some transgression and thought the blue line would protect them like it has so many others in the past.
Thr truly strange thing about this one is there ain't a lot of "comply or die" rhetoric coming from the right. One would like to believe that folks have had a belly full of the state executing people on the side of the highway without any due process or even that the state has come to its senses and realized that someone refusing to get out of their car is not a good reason to beat them to death and have millions of dollars of property destroyed. More than likely none of this is true and the state has some indication that this particular incident is unlike others and there is the possibility that this was actually one or more cops visiting retribution on a person who had somehow wronged them in their mind.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 7:18 am to LookSquirrel
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This is a very large and influential criminal organization and helps makes some sense of what seems like a senseless beating by these cops, who seemed to have no concern of any repercussions of their actions. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Normally there would be no repercussions. The "comply or die" crowd would be all over the media supporting yet another state execution of a citizen for committing a minor crime, if any. Thus far that crowd has been pretty silent this time. One would like to think that they have come to their senses but that is unlikely.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 7:20 am to TH095526
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It makes sense. That wasn't a normal traffic stop and it looked like a gang hit from the get-go. If that is the case than the charges need to be upgraded to premeditated first degree murder and the cops and whatever gang lord, they work for need to receive the death penalty and the entire Memphis police department needs to be weeded out of the bad apples. This is what happens with affirmative action.
At the very least when they were jailed they should receive NO consideration for their chosen occupation. When convicted they should either be in solitary 23 hours a day or in gen pop. Some of them would think twice about executing folks and relying on the comply or die crowd's protection.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 7:27 am to FearlessFreep
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yes, its so much more comforting to think that 5 officers of the law beat a citizen to death for an improper lane change
And, in the process, incited a riot that destroyed millions of dollars of property, ruined many lives and created a sense of mistrust that will take YEARS of hard work and effort to resolve if we as a society ever find the fortitude to attempt to do so. You would think avoiding the destruction of property would be enough to convince the comply or die crowd to back off but they are solid in their conviction that the state can do no wrong and will never conclude differently, unfortunately. We keep doing the same thing and expect different results...there has to be a word for that....
Posted on 1/30/23 at 7:31 am to Diamondawg
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I am sure the vetting process is much more strict for police academy admission than for prison guard work, but I know for a fact that gang members make their way into prison (here anyway) as guards.
What if after becoming a cop, the gangs recruit dirty cops? Seems plausible to me.
Not only plausible but altogether simple to do...find a cop in a situation that could damage them personally, not hard to do at their income level and age, and flip them. Anyone who doubts it happens is totally unaware of the corruption that has been proven time and again in the nations police departments and law enforcement communities. One does not need to rely on conjecture and conspiracy theories with the abundance of CONVICTIONS and undeniable evidence to the contrary. The United States has a problem....we have to decide if the comply or die crowd is the proper course of action or not....
Posted on 1/30/23 at 7:36 am to craynagin
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Right.
But still a legitimate question.
Property bonds maybe. Not as easy as it once was but still viable. You can also bet that since they were cops they were allowed some allowances that would prevent their being in lock up for long until convicted simply because of the logistics of keeping them locked up with people they no doubt helped put in jail. Bail bondsmen ain't exactly paradigms of model citizens...its entirely possible that one or more would put up the entire amount for consideration from the system in the future.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 7:44 am to LookSquirrel
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And wearing military type ribbons, similar to what a soldier would wear for service in the line of duty.
A sizeable number of citizens view the "service" police provide as worthy of the same kind of consideration a soldier gets from the public. They usually change their mind about this when it is them who is face to face with the corruption that is inherent in the law enforcement community but it is too late for them then....
Police are not about protecting and serving. They are about making arrests and going home in the same condition they left for work in, despite the mountain of evidence that indicates their work is not remotely close to the most dangerous work done in the United States daily. Their sole purpose is to make arrests, not prevent crimes. In an ideal world an arrest would mean a crime had taken place and therefore someone was a victim of said crime and the police had failed in their duty which should be crime prevention first and foremost, not arresting people after the fact. The only way they can facilitate this topsy turvy world view is convincing enough people that complying or dying is the proper way to prevent crime that they can operate without fear of reprisal.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 7:52 am to LookSquirrel
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Which is odd but suggests they felt like they had protection from consequences of their actions.
Unfortunately history teaches that there is no reprisal generally speaking, no matter what they do. Imagine their dismay when there is a price to pay. Shock, chagrin, a nationwide erosion of police "morale"....rumor has it that many are quitting or retiring because they no longer feel protected at all costs. They have an inflated sense of their value to society which is bolstered by a majority of citizens who suffer from irrational fears that the law enforcement community has built upon. Most of the work they do can be done more efficiently and with far better outcomes with cameras and lighting technology. What can't be accomplished with that can be accomplished by merely placing a cop car in sight and having uniformed employees present. Given the well documented corruption and wrong doing that we know of, not that is based on conjecture but based on verifiable facts like arrests and convictions, there is some serious question as to their being any value at all in the system as it is currently manifested.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 7:57 am to I20goon
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The one thing this was NOT was a routine traffic stop gone wrong.
The fact that there is the slightest possibility that a routine traffic stop for a minor offense is seen as a potential impetus for this type of behavior is the problem. the fact that so many Americans are ok with routine traffic stops going awry to this point and that the accused should comply or die and the state is in no way culpable is the issue. Corruption is part and parcel of humanity...it is as old as civilization. Making it legitimate based on irrational fears is insanity. Unfortunately many of us suffer from that form of mental illness.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:15 pm to LookSquirrel
quote:Whi is "we"?
We are investigating a tip that 3 of the 5 officers in the Memphis PD beating of Tyre Nichols were members of the Vice Lords gang and under their direction.
They are confirmed Scorpions. The Mayor enacted the Scorpians program after the BLM movement turned real ugly. She has since stopped it.
This side gang thing seems like someone made it up? It sounds feasible but is it accurate? Has it been sourced further?
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