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re: Watching this entire immigration thing flip on democrats today will be fun.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:34 am to clooneyisgod
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:34 am to clooneyisgod
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I'll be the little kids in these camps will think it's fun too
You care, we get it. So do I. Unlike you, I want it fixed permanently. You’d like to see it continue forever so you can have cheap produce and lawn care.
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:34 am to Dawgfanman
Crying Chuck said there was no need for legislation and Trump was the only one that needed to do anything. I’m wondering if he even attended basic civics classes? Is he wanting the president to be authoritarian?
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:35 am to iron banks
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Where was the Dims savior on this issue while it happened during his entire 8 years
It didn't happen during his 8 years. You are flat out wrong about that. There was no policy of separating children from parents. I challenge you to post some evidence that this identical policy was happening during Obama's administration.
Plus I thought one of yall's (admittedly weak) talking points was that Obama was weak on immigration. So was he weak on immigration or was he doing the same thing Trump is doing. Many of you are talking out of both sides of your mouths on this.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 7:39 am
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:36 am to Dawgfanman
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You care, we get it. So do I. Unlike you, I want it fixed permanently. You’d like to see it continue forever so you can have cheap produce and lawn care.
Both things can happen. The separation policy can be terminated while Congress deals with actual legislation. Adults can keep 2 ideas in their head at the same time.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:39 am to clooneyisgod
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It didn't happen during his 8 years. You are flat out wrong about that. There was no policy of separating children form parents. I challenge you to post some evidence that this identical policy was happening during Obama's administration.
You asked..
LINK
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:39 am to clooneyisgod
Are you aware THrat these kids. Parents have to continually decide to be separated from their kids. If they stipulate to removal they will be reunited and sent home almost immediately. Were you aware of hat? Of course you weren't. You....like all of the liberals here have no idea how it works. You just FEEL and throw temper tantrums.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 7:40 am
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:40 am to clooneyisgod
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Both things can happen. The separation policy can be terminated while Congress deals with actual legislation. Adults can keep 2 ideas in their head at the same time.
Hasn’t proven to be true in the past. If not forced to, Congress will not do its job.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:44 am to Dawgfanman
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You asked..
I read the article you linked, and I think that policy sounds really shitty too. But of course you also read the article you linked and you of course know that it specifically says that they were keeping children with their mother/parent. They were not taking children away from their parents and keeping them on their own, which is what is happening now. it certainly appears they were splitting families up. But children weren’t being kept from their parents. At least that’s what your article says.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:44 am to clooneyisgod
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I'll be the little kids in these camps will think it's fun too
Don't "children" always benefit or suffer for the decisions made by parents"?
I come from poor. My grandparents made GOOD decisions and my parents made GOOD decisions. I benefitted.
I know families that made shite decisions and the children are still shite.
Don't blame the consequence. Blame the decision maker.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:44 am to BBONDS25
The pigs are squealing because the policy is WORKING. No children are being harmed, not at all. They aren't being locked in damned dungeons and the liberal bastards know this.
Trump is going to make this do nothing Congress do its' job and fix this problem. He is going to make them give him the funding to build the wall, and the pigs are squealing.
Trump is going to make this do nothing Congress do its' job and fix this problem. He is going to make them give him the funding to build the wall, and the pigs are squealing.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:45 am to BBONDS25
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Are you aware THrat these kids. Parents have to continually decide to be separated from their kids. If they stipulate to removal they will be reunited and sent home almost immediately. Were you aware of hat? Of course you weren't. You....like all of the liberals here have no idea how it works. You just FEEL and throw temper tantrums.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not sure you do either though
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:46 am to Dawgfanman
Have you seen what the frick is being voted on?
How the hell can any conservatives be happy what’s in Ryan’s bill.
How the hell can any conservatives be happy what’s in Ryan’s bill.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:46 am to bmy
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I'm trying to figure out if republicans are now okay using children and tragedies to score political points or not
Hilarious yet delusional. Impressive.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:46 am to clooneyisgod
Of course you don't have any idea. Yet you lament kids being put in cages. You don't even know what a stipulated removal is. You have such strong opinions, but are completely ignorant to the process. Learn something. Moron.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 7:48 am
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:50 am to bmy
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I'm trying to figure out if republicans are now okay using children and tragedies to score political points or not
Don't hurt yourself thinking. This your first time trying out that thinking thing?
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 7:58 am
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:51 am to BBONDS25
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Of course you don't have any idea. Yet you lament kids being put in cages. You don't even know what a stipulated removal is. You have such strong opinions, but are completely ignorant to the process. Learn something. Moron.
The "moron" part tells me you're good guy. But the first version of your post before you revised it said to Google Stipulated Removal. So please explain it in the context of it's relevancy to this current separation policy. I'm open to learning something new.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:54 am to clooneyisgod
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I read the article you linked, and I think that policy sounds really shitty too. But of course you also read the article you linked and you of course know that it specifically says that they were keeping children with their mother/parent. They were not taking children away from their parents and keeping them on their own, which is what is happening now. it certainly appears they were splitting families up. But children weren’t being kept from their parents. At least that’s what your article says.
You didn’t read all of it then...an 11 year old was taken from mom and sister. He was held in one place, dad in another, mom and sister in another..
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:55 am to clooneyisgod
Google "stipulated removal immigration court". Learn something. It amazes me you guys have such strong opinions, yet don't know the process.
Let me see if I can say it slow enough for you. a person detained for unauthorized entry can stipulate to their removal and will almost immediately be processed and sent home. If these parents were to stipulate to being removed, they would immediately be reunited with their children.
You didn't know that. Yet you feel comfortable opining as though you aren't completely ignorant to the process. Typical democrat.
Let me see if I can say it slow enough for you. a person detained for unauthorized entry can stipulate to their removal and will almost immediately be processed and sent home. If these parents were to stipulate to being removed, they would immediately be reunited with their children.
You didn't know that. Yet you feel comfortable opining as though you aren't completely ignorant to the process. Typical democrat.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 7:57 am
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:56 am to clooneyisgod
If seperating families deters illegal immigration, then it seems as though the policy is working
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:04 am to Dawgfanman
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You didn’t read all of it then...an 11 year old was taken from mom and sister. He was held in one place, dad in another, mom and sister in another..
You're right. I just saw that. I'm not convinced from that one anecdotal story that it was an "administration policy" since the rest of the article discussed in detail that the policy was too keep children with at least one parent. But I obviously agree that keeping kids form the parents is awful even if done in isolation. I think we can both agree that the actual policy now is to separate the kids from the parents.
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