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re: Was Minny shooter on SSRI uptake inhibitors?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:14 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:14 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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People don't take SSRI's recreationally.
1 in 10 are taking them. It’s not not recreational.
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:14 pm to the808bass
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And this still isn’t true.
Again, you base your statement on what evidence, exactly?
What secret information do you have about the shooter that the public doesn't have?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:15 pm to the808bass
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1 in 10 are taking them. It’s not not recreational.
Then they have to seek them out via official means.
He was actively avoiding being on that radar, based on his own words.
Why would he be taking SSRIs?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:15 pm to SlidellCajun
quote:People who have heart attacks are also usually on blood pressure meds.
It would be hard to establish causation but there is certainly some correlation
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:17 pm to the808bass
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1 in 10 are taking them. It’s not not recreational.
Idk what that means.
SSRI's take days/weeks of consistent dosage to take effect and most have horrible side effects (clearly).
Is there any evidence that people are out there seeking/doctor shopping to get SSRIs?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:19 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Is there any evidence that people are out there seeking/doctor shopping to get SSRIs?
What planet are you on?
You don’t have to doctor shop to get an SSRI script.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Then they have to seek them out via official means.
No. They don’t.
Go to the doctor and allude to having some generalized anxiety and trouble sleeping.
This was in the link I posted earlier.
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When Maria Garay, 48, came in for her regular checkup this summer, she wouldn't have said she was depressed, but after her doctor questioned her about her difficulty sleeping and her mood, she was given a prescription for an antidepressant. "I wasn't feeling myself. I wasn't enjoying the things I did in the past," says the mother of two who lives in New York. "It didn't surprise me that he said it was depression, but I was reluctant to go on medication at first." After her doctor, Dr. Albert Levy, explained why the drugs might help her cope, she agreed to try them out.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Again, you base your statement on what evidence, exactly?
You argued that he was avoiding therapy therefore he wouldn’t have an SSRI script. Most people with an SSRI script aren’t in therapy and haven’t seen a therapist in the last year.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:23 pm to the808bass
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Then they have to seek them out via official means.
quote:
Go to the doctor
"Official means"
[ x ] Engaged
[ _] Not Engaged
And you skipped over the most important part of that post:
quote:
Why would he be taking SSRIs?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Why would he be taking SSRIs?
I’m not sure what you mean.
You are arguing he was of sound mind?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:24 pm to the808bass
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You argued that he was avoiding therapy therefore he wouldn’t have an SSRI script.
I said it made it more unlikely he wasn't on SSRIs
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Most people with an SSRI script aren’t in therapy and haven’t seen a therapist in the last year.
Are they actively avoiding treatment? Clearly not. He was.
Again:
quote:
Why would he be taking SSRIs?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:25 pm to the808bass
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I’m not sure what you mean.
If he wasn't being force-fed the SSRIs, he'd not only have to seek out a script, but take them. I'm assuming we all agree the "force" option wasn't occurring.
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You are arguing he was of sound mind?
No, but his broken mind was purposefully avoiding treatment or being on the radar of needing treatment.
Why would he go to a doctor to get a script of SSRIs in the first place?
Then, why would he continue to take these SSRIs?
Your argument is that he COULD do it outside of therapy. Nobody is disputing that. The question we're asking is WHY would he
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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"Official means" [ x ] Engaged [ _] Not Engaged
Lets strain at some gnats together.
He wouldn’t have to SEEK OUT SSRIs - your words counselor. He could simply go to the doctor and have a prescription given for an SSRI even though he might have been seeing the doctor for a strained labia.
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Over the last 2 weeks, how often have you been bothered by the following problems? 1. Little interest or pleasure in doing things Not at all 0 Several days +1 More than half the days +2 Nearly every day +3 2. Feeling down, depressed or hopeless Not at all 0 Several days +1 More than half the days +2 Nearly every day +3 3. Trouble falling asleep, staying asleep, or sleeping too much Not at all 0 Several days +1 More than half the days +2 Nearly every day +3 4. Feeling tired or having little energy Not at all 0 Several days +1 More than half the days +2 Nearly every day +3 5. Poor appetite or overeating Not at all 0 Several days +1 More than half the days +2 Nearly every day +3 6. Feeling bad about yourself - or that you’re a failure or have let yourself or your family down Not at all 0 Several days +1 More than half the days +2 Nearly every day +3 7. Trouble concentrating on things, such as reading the newspaper or watching television Not at all 0 Several days +1 More than half the days +2 Nearly every day +3 8. Moving or speaking so slowly that other people could have noticed. Or, the opposite - being so fidgety or restless that you have been moving around a lot more than usual Not at all 0 Several days +1 More than half the days +2 Nearly every day +3 9. Thoughts that you would be better off dead or of hurting yourself in some way Not at all 0 Several days +1 More than half the days +2 Nearly every day +3
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I said it made it more unlikely he wasn't on SSRIs
And you’re right if data doesn’t mean anything.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:28 pm to the808bass
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He wouldn’t have to SEEK OUT SSRIs - your words counselor. He could simply go to the doctor
That's the definition of seeking them out
Again, the question is why would he do this?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:29 pm to the808bass
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And you’re right if data doesn’t mean anything.
And you've yet to post, literally, any data, specific to the shooter, after 2 pages of avoiding the "why" question
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
No. You said he would have to seek out SSRIs. You can now try to pretend that you didn’t say it. But you did. And those words have meaning in and of themselves (at least to normal, non-autists). If you’d like to move the argument to a more historical critical argument, I can venture into discerning your meaning as whatever I wish.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
I have posted general data. Are you arguing he’s not a person, now?
Tilt.
Tilt.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:31 pm to SlidellCajun
Most mass shooters are not on SSRIs. If they caused it, considering 37,000,000 US citizens take them, there should be many more mass shootings. Hundreds more.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:32 pm to the808bass
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You said he would have to seek out SSRIs
Yes, which includes him going to the doctor to get them. They weren't just going to show up magically in his house. He had to seek them out, via official means (doctors) if he wasn't doing them recreationally (which you did finally rule out)
All of that still ignores this:
Why would he do this?
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