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re: Vivek to cut 120 billion in healthcare for veterans?
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:01 am to TackySweater
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:01 am to TackySweater
quote:I don't know. How about you tell us where you heard this?
Is this factual or just a lib talking point?
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Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:02 am to TackySweater
If they attack Vets benefits republicans will never win another election.
Theres an enormous amount of government waste to include paying illegals and sending our tax money to other countries that needs to be addressed first.
Theres an enormous amount of government waste to include paying illegals and sending our tax money to other countries that needs to be addressed first.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:02 am to TackySweater
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Is this factual or just a lib talking point?
Trump isn't in office yet , yet everything he does or says they have a stupid response.
Why don't they talk about how Kamala spent a billion dollars
FRAUD
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:04 am to momentoftruth87
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There is nothing in this world that isn’t abused but unless you’ve been there or served you have zero idea what you’re talking about. The VA has already revised a lot and there are less vets today getting full benefits because we haven’t been at war for a few years now. It’s not like you write down what’s wrong to you and they approve it, getting full benefits isn’t as easy as you think and all this is evaluated by doctors, diagnostics and paperwork that verify claims.
I work with 2 guys who brag about it all the time. They talk about what they're going to complain about at the next appointment.
A couple years ago my dad was asked at an appointment what was bothering him and they got him 15% disability for a bum thumb. His time in the navy he spent as an electronics technician in the Caribbean and the med. Most of his time was stateside working on cryptogear.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:05 am to Privateer 2007
It is true that many veterans utilize the VA and for non service connected issues. It is also true that the VA takes private insurance for these other issues just like any other hospital and the veteran is subject to copays etc. interestingly enough the VA will not take tricare.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:06 am to TackySweater
Making it more efficient is different from simple cuts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:07 am to Chicken
Pete Hegseth has said it before that he doesn’t claim va and that there’s lots of people who do. That’s cool for him that he doesn’t want benefits or to use the VA but he has millions now being a Fox contributor and now going to be secdef. He’s also still very much entitled to change his mind and file his claims or use the VA.
There are a lot of people who didn’t get blown up but that doesn’t mean they don’t rate per the system. They are more than welcome to look into this but it’s not going to cut those who have it but likely make it more difficult to prevent that small percent that is fraud. Again it’s not as easy as people think and it’s actually quite difficult for your avg vet to get claims approved.
There are a lot of people who didn’t get blown up but that doesn’t mean they don’t rate per the system. They are more than welcome to look into this but it’s not going to cut those who have it but likely make it more difficult to prevent that small percent that is fraud. Again it’s not as easy as people think and it’s actually quite difficult for your avg vet to get claims approved.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:09 am to LB84
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A couple years ago my dad was asked at an appointment what was bothering him and they got him 15% disability for a bum thumb. His time in the navy he spent as an electronics technician in the Caribbean and the med. Most of his time was stateside working on cryptogear.
So he has a service connected disability and he rates what he gets. You don’t have to be at war. How is it different than a service member getting in a car crash and dies or suicide who gets paid out in SGLI? But but but he didn’t die in combat…
This post was edited on 11/14/24 at 8:10 am
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:13 am to momentoftruth87
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There is nothing in this world that isn’t abused but unless you’ve been there or served you have zero idea what you’re talking about. The VA has already revised a lot and there are less vets today getting full benefits because we haven’t been at war for a few years now. It’s not like you write down what’s wrong to you and they approve it, getting full benefits isn’t as easy as you think and all this is evaluated by doctors, diagnostics and paperwork that verify claims.
Correct. However, there are some who will game the system to try to increase their service connected disability. They need a better system to screen veterans for SC disabilities. What that looks like, I really don't know yet. I'll just say that in over ten years of looking over countless veteran charts, I've seen some guys continuing to find things to claim, while others had to fight .gov for years over Agent Orange, the burn pits in Iraq, and now the shite water at Camp LeJeune.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:15 am to BluegrassCardinal
That’s honestly a risk for those people because if you make a claim your whole disability gets reevaluated. It’s also weird math where they may claim something and they won’t get an increase yet they can now be treated for the claim. Those people will get what’s coming especially now days they have revised a lot.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:17 am to TackySweater
Got your panties in a wad?
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:19 am to RogerTheShrubber
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There is a shitload of old vietnam vets who have lived on these islands most of their life living off the govt.
Their occupation is smoking weed.
Shitting on veterans.
While supporting a draft dodger who has said he doesn't like POWs and thinks people who went to Viet Nam were suckers.
You piece of shite.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:19 am to TackySweater
quote:
Is this factual or just a lib talking point?
Oh so you want to cut spending, but of course not YOUR spending.
fricking NIMBY's
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:20 am to momentoftruth87
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Pete Hegseth has said it before that he doesn’t claim va and that there’s lots of people who do. That’s cool for him that he doesn’t want benefits or to use the VA but he has millions now being a Fox contributor and now going to be secdef. He’s also still very much entitled to change his mind and file his claims or use the VA.
Reminds me of my fat, POS, wife's Ex brother in law. Dude served ten years in the Navy, honorably discharged, as far as I know.
Wife and I are out for dinner last December, it wasn't long after I was diagnosed with an eye disease that will eventually leave me blind. The VA accepted me for full healthcare and are going to send me to a blindness rehab clinic at Hines VA Med center in Chicago.
Dude walks up to our table, drunk as hell, bragging about his years in the Navy and how he's never asked the VA for one dime, or ever filed a claim. Being drunk, he made sure to repeat it a few times. Fortunately his equally fat girlfriend saw what was happening and pulled him away.
Point being, not using VA is someone's preference, not something to brag about. I really don't get it. Sounds like "bro" culture to me.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:22 am to BayouBlitz
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Shitting on veterans.
Youre retarded. I'm shitting on the system that allows this to happen.
I have a buddy who twisted his knee in Marine basic training, ended up getting free college, subsidies, computer etc out of the VA.
He got more in benefits from a strained knee than he would have working for them.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:24 am to BluegrassCardinal
Yeah I don’t get that. Again maybe they should change 38 CFR Book but again claims are backed by documentation, diagnostics, and doctors. People don’t realize that. Or like I said if you make a claim it can actually lower benefits because of VA math.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:27 am to momentoftruth87
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That’s honestly a risk for those people because if you make a claim your whole disability gets reevaluated. It’s also weird math where they may claim something and they won’t get an increase yet they can now be treated for the claim. Those people will get what’s coming especially now days they have revised a lot.
As they fine tune the C&P exams, yeah, you're probably right.
I've had guys urge me to "go claim this." Unless I know it's something that developed during my active duty time, I'm not doing it. I finally applied when I was diagnosed with retinitis pigmentosa. It's a disease that has left me legally blind. The VA considers legal blindness a "catastrophic disability." I get 100% healthcare, and still have my private plan because I have usable vision to work. If you asked me, I would rather have full sight and NO VA benefits.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:32 am to BluegrassCardinal
The biggest whiners are people who never served when they had every ability to and get the same benefits. I did a stint of recruiting during my time and all these “patriotic” Americans told me to frick off or they’re too good for military service yet they cry about shite like this where they have no idea what the veteran is dealing with or has claims for.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:40 am to crotiger0307
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Go listen to Pete Hegseth on Shawn Ryan podcast, one of the first topics they discuss is failures of the VA apparatus and support for having the money follow the individuals. My assumption is this means removing a substantial amount of money from the department itself
In an already flailing line of work (military service) you start fricking with benefits and entitlements and things will go down hill fast.
Posted on 11/15/24 at 12:01 pm to TrueTiger
We don’t know the powers this new agency may have but as you said, most likely, it will not be able to cut funds. Congress does that after all.
But also, there are agencies such as OIG that already do what Trump suggested this new agency will do. The difference is that the OIG is nonpartisan nor politically influenced, while DOGE is clearly politically motivated.
Bottom line is that it appears DOGE will be created to “ cut wasteful expenditures” while creating additional wasteful expenditures. Another scam idea… kind of Trump’s university
But also, there are agencies such as OIG that already do what Trump suggested this new agency will do. The difference is that the OIG is nonpartisan nor politically influenced, while DOGE is clearly politically motivated.
Bottom line is that it appears DOGE will be created to “ cut wasteful expenditures” while creating additional wasteful expenditures. Another scam idea… kind of Trump’s university
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