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re: Vivek melts after getting called out for lying

Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:11 am to
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:11 am to
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now he’s outed himself as a fool

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Jon Ham


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Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:58 am to


Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 8:29 am to
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How does it generically "criminalize human emotion"?


All 'hate speech' laws criminalize hate, a human emotion.

If I murder you out of convenience, I'm punished.

If I murder you out of emotional feelings I'm experiencing, I get punished more.

Either way you are dead. The only difference was the emotions of the killer. Human emotion is being made a crime.
Posted by rmnldr
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 8:33 am to
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Turns out, people don’t mind censorship so long as they don’t agree with the opinions being censored.


How is community notes censorship?

Vivek said the only way to counter bad speech is with good speech. Community notes is more speech and has to be decided on by everyone. Seems a bit hypocritical to be against it. Community notes also doesn’t suppress or hide any content of the tweet.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 8:38 am to

Did Vivek lie or offer his opinion?

Posted by Snazzmeister
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:03 pm to
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Next, DeSantis online trolls & larger DeSantis influencers like @RubinReport complained to @CommunityNotes to throttle my tweet, claiming that it wasn’t technically a “hate speech law.” I disagree with them, because it’s absolutely a hate speech law in its effect, notwithstanding the law’s title. But then, the censorship czars at Twitter - which notably launched the DeSantis campaign & pumped it up with owner @elonmusk & DeSantis megadonor @DavidSacks - abided the requests of these DeSantis supporters by throttling my tweet that criticized the DeSantis law.


“Speech not reach” as Twitter likes to say is just a way to publicly shadow ban.
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 5:02 pm to
Klaus and George have a lot invested in Vivek. Vivek will probably have to meet them in the woodshed.
Posted by rmnldr
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:22 pm to
He’s getting destroyed

Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:38 pm to
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How is community notes censorship? Vivek said the only way to counter bad speech is with good speech. Community notes is more speech and has to be decided on by everyone. Seems a bit hypocritical to be against it. Community notes also doesn’t suppress or hide any content of the tweet.


More speech is good speech.

I don’t mind the community notes. I think it adds speech.

I hope twitter doesn’t “throttle” the original tweet though because of anything. I don’t like that because it’s a form of speech suppression. I don’t know if that is happening, though. I hope not.
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