re: Vitamin K shots for newborns

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Look at the open border years- definitely an uptick. Open borders IS an issue with disease.

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What? The trends in the data don't show that at all. Again, this is a terrible argument and for some reason you are doubling down.

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I'm looking at the CDC website while chatting with you.

What is unclear about 76% of TB in the US being diagnosed of foreign born persons?

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I'm looking at the surveillance reports from 1953. What is unclear about the caseload and incidence rate being around 60% lower from 1993 to now despite increased immigration totals from high burden countries?

Read my whole post. I chose 1993, literally 30 years from the last dataset, to reference the entirety of the decline. 1953 is when the dataset started, yes, but again, my post measures the decline in incidence rates and total cases from 1993, 1-9-9-3. Again, answer the question.

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What is unclear about the caseload and incidence rate being around 60% lower from 1993 to now despite increased immigration totals from high burden countries?

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Which would, perhaps, explain the recent uptick in the open border years- unfettered immigration makes it harder to screen, track, treat, and trace cases.

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What? You think the US can't handle caseloads which it historically handled before in the same decade? You argument, and I am saying this geniunely, does not make any sense any perspective.

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Again... 76% of TB is in the immigrant community.

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Again, I already explained why this is and yet the case numbers nowhere other than the return to the mean (arguably) in 2023 do we see very much variety in the numbers.

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It is a failure of immigration management.

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What if its just your failure and your failure alone to considering all the factors?

The total incidence rate is so low that it might as well be non-existent. In other words, even with unfettered immigration from high burden TB countries, it is likely that a physician could go several years without seeing a case. Apparently that fact is resistant to your understanding though.

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it is likely that a physician could go several years without seeing a case. Apparently that fact is resistant to your understanding though.

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Immigrant communities tend to group... some docs may see very few or even zero; others will see plenty.

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Immigrant communities tend to group... some docs may see very few or even zero; others will see plenty.

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I'm well aware, but you aren't reading my sentences fully. Even with unfettered immigration, which is apparently somehow resistant to measurement except when it is convenient for you, this is the likely result. How are you not understanding this? The very notion that even in unfettered immigration, which I'm sure you would describe the Biden years, the rate never reached above 3 case per 100k, doesn't inform your viewpoint, what will?

2.9 per 100000k.

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Your figure is a combined total rate, regardless of status.

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Yes. We are making a like-for-like comparison. There is certainly no evidence for increases during the Biden years, which also had the 3 lowest caseload totals on record. And I suspect if you actually were interested in this topic instead of doubling down, the years you would regard as 'open border' years would also not show any increase. Do you know how I know?

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one wonders how even that low a rate contracted it.

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Do you just ignore things as convenient? Again, the question is this. If open borders are such a massive problem, why has the TB rate overall decreased despite high immigration from countries regarded as having a high TB burden? I suspect you are afraid of answering honestly because it would upset your original claim, but I also want to make clear the degree of your own dishonesty. It's incredible. You operate in amazingly bad-faith, are terrible at making arguments and have no understanding of what you talk about.

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Are you forever going to avoid dealing with the substantive aspects of a post or are you going to try this chickenshit with me all the time?