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Vigano thread: light vs dark, spiritual vs secular

Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:40 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:40 pm
New Vigano thread
Light vs Dark
Intersection of the spiritual and the secular...


https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/good-vs-evil-children-of-the-light-vs-children-of-the-dark---vigano-letter-to-trump/90594907/

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Good vs evil (children of the light vs children of the dark) - Vigano letter to TrumpPosted on 6/22/20 at 1:27 pm


https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2020/06/10/trump-archbishop-vigano-letter-deep-state/

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Trump praises Italian archbishop who urges him to fight ‘deep state’ protests

By
Michelle Boorstein
June 10, 2020 at 7:38 p.m. CD


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President Trump on Wednesday praised what he called an “incredible” letter to the president from a controversial Italian archbishop that said Black Lives Matter protests and the coronavirus quarantine are part of an orchestrated campaign by “the children of darkness” against “the children of light.”

“On the one hand there are those who, although they have a thousand defects and weaknesses, are motivated by the desire to do good, to be honest, to raise a family, to engage in work, to give prosperity to their homeland, to help the needy, and, in obedience to the Law of God, to merit the Kingdom of Heaven," read the June 7 letter to Trump from Archbishop Carlo Vigano, a former Vatican diplomat to Washington. “On the other hand, there are those who serve themselves, who do not hold any moral principles, who want to demolish the family.”



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Later in the letter, he wrote that “it is quite clear that the use of street protests is instrumental to the purposes of those who would like to see someone elected in the upcoming presidential elections who embodies the goals of the deep state."


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The new letter opens by saying that recent months have seen “two opposing sides” form in the United States and Europe “that I would call Biblical: the children of light and the children of darkness,” Vigano writes.
In this worldview, he writes, the coronavirus emergency was “managed” by dark, hidden hands in health care, politics and the media who pursued a “colossal operation of social engineering,” Vigano wrote Trump.

Rioting and “civil disturbances,” he wrote, are being “provoked” by forces that saw the virus fading and were concerned about what Vigano called “legitimate” government repression.


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https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/archbishop-vigano-plans-for-a-new-world-order-must-be-unmasked-understood-and-revealed

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Archbishop Viganò: Plans for a New World Order must be ‘unmasked, understood, and revealed’

'The idea of plans for a New World Order under which countries and ordinary citizens saw their identity taken away by a powerful elite might have seemed absurd until a few years ago'

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[quote]The Appeal has certainly raised a certain amount of discussion and debate. In Germany, many Bishops have simply spoken of “conspiracy theories,” and have completely failed to refute any of our claims. They have thus climbed onto the bandwagon of current ideology. During a recent interview with the German Catholic weekly magazine Die Tagespost, Cardinal Müller (one of the signatories of the Appeal) courageously notes that “the modern trend is to consider anyone who thinks things in a different way as a conspiracy theorist.

He also says:


Those who fail to distinguish between the suitability and danger of globalization deny reality. Pope Francis has spoken out against states and international bodies imposing abortion in poor countries as a form of neo-colonialism and denying them aid if they refuse to implement this. When Alberto Fujimori was the president of Peru, I spoke to many women and men who had been sterilized unknowingly and who had been tricked with large sums of money and promises about healthcare and a better life. Is this some sort of conspiracy theory? The same must be said about accusations of conspiracy theories concerning discussions of vaccinating seven billion people, even though the vaccine has not been properly tested yet and basic rights may be denied to any who refuse the vaccine. Nobody can be forced to believe that a couple of billionaire benefactors have the best plans for improving things around the world simply because they have been able to accumulate such huge sums of money.




Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:42 pm to
Reputable background reading:

TL:DR

Vigano blows the whistle on Cardinal Theodore McCarrick (former archbishop of Washington DC...)
Vigano ostracized
Vigano claims this filth is systemic at the highest levels of the church, politics, and society..
Vigano implores Trump to persist
Lin Woods hints he has evidence/testimony to corroborate claims in the political/societal realms

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/28/world/europe/cardinal-theodore-mccarrick-resigns.html

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Cardinal Theodore McCarrick Resigns Amid Sexual Abuse Scandal


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ROME — Pope Francis has accepted the resignation of Cardinal Theodore E. McCarrick, the former archbishop of Washington, from the College of Cardinals, ordering him to a “life of prayer and penance” after allegations that the cardinal sexually abused minors and adult seminarians over the course of decades, the Vatican announced on Saturday. Acting swiftly to contain a widening sex abuse scandal at the highest levels of the Roman Catholic Church, the pope officially suspended the cardinal from the exercise of any public ministry after receiving his resignation letter Friday evening. Pope Francis also demanded in a statement that the prelate remain in seclusion “until the accusations made against him are examined in a regular canonical trial.” Cardinal McCarrick appears to be the first cardinal in history to step down from the College of Cardinals because of sexual abuse allegations. While he remains a priest pending the outcome of a Vatican trial, he has been stripped of his highest honor and will no longer be called upon to advise the pope and travel on his behalf.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/26/world/europe/pope-ireland-sexual-abuse-letter-vigano.html

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Pope Francis Long Knew of Cardinal’s Abuse and Must Resign, Archbishop Says


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/28/world/europe/archbishop-carlo-maria-vigano-pope-francis.html

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The Man Who Took On Pope Francis: The Story Behind the Viganò Letter


Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:43 pm to

What he says lines up with the “insane” things Lin Woods has been saying


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-renegade-catholic-clerics-who-shamefully-backed-trumps-big-lie-opinion/ar-BB1cUeRW

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The renegade Catholic clerics who shamefully backed Trump's Big Lie (opinion) Opinion by Paul Moses 4 days ago


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During the two days before the January 6 riot in the Capitol, numerous far-right websites carried an interview with a Catholic archbishop who warned that the United States would be "wiped out from history" if it failed to expose "now" what his interviewer called "the coordinated theft of our election." Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, the former Vatican ambassador to the United States, is a renegade cleric best known for calling for Pope Francis' resignation. He is the most prominent of a group of Catholic clergymen who joined evangelical Protestant figures in the religious wing of the "Stop the Steal" movement. Given the role of Catholics as a swing vote — and as 30% of the members of Congress — these far-right clerics have played an important role in supporting President Donald Trump's Big Lie that he won the 2020 presidential election. Video messages from Viganò, Bishop Joseph Strickland of the Tyler diocese in east Texas, and the Rev. Frank Pavone, national director of Priests for Life, were featured in the December 12 "Jericho March" called "to preserve fair and free elections in America." Viganò's role is particularly troubling. He invokes his position as an archbishop, "Successor of the Apostles," and former top Vatican official to claim apostolic authority to indulge in conspiracy.


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The march's publicity release listed Viganò as the headliner for that rally, along with retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, the former national security adviser Trump pardoned. From a jumbo video screen on the National Mall, Viganò said he prayed that "order will triumph over destruction," telling the crowd, "We are the silent army of the children of light, the humble ranks who overthrow evil by invoking God, the praying army that walks around the walls of lies and betrayal in order to bring them down."


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We have seen the deep state organize itself, well in advance, to carry out the most colossal electoral fraud in history, in order to ensure the defeat of the man who has strenuously opposed the establishment of the New World Order that is wanted by the children of darkness," he wrote. "In this battle, you have not failed, as is your sacred duty, to make your own contribution by taking the side of the Good. Others, enslaved by vices or blinded by infernal hatred against Our Lord, have taken the side of Evil." Though he is on the run from papal authority, the archbishop invoked his status as "Successor of the Apostles" to make statements such as this one in an October open letter to Trump: "Around you are gathered with faith and courage those who consider you the final garrison against the world dictatorship." He also plays on the piety of devout Catholics by frequently invoking the Blessed Mother in support of his fantasies.


Over the target...
Posted by Peepdip
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:44 pm to
Seek therapy.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:44 pm to
You need to get laid
Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:46 pm to
Has it ever occurred to you that in the unlikely event you are correct, it doesn’t matter?
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:48 pm to
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Has it ever occurred to you that in the unlikely event you are correct, it doesn’t matter?


Sure
I don’t do apathy well...
Posted by beulahland
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:00 pm to
Good read.
Deep state communists recoil from truth like vampires detest sunlight.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:05 pm to
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Vigano


I agree with him but I’m surprised he isn’t dead yet.
Posted by MoCo Ag
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:09 pm to
For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Posted by kcon70
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:25 pm to
Thank you TPA for providing some good rabbit hole material.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:57 am to
Sunday morning reflections...

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Cardinal Theodore E. McCarrick, the former archbishop of Washington, from the College of Cardinals


https://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/continuing-scandal-mccarrick-doctrine/

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The Continuing Scandal of the McCarrick Doctrine
By Fr. Jerry Pokorsky ( bio - articles - email ) |

Nov 30, 2020


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Students of Catholic moral teaching discover what the most simple of faithful Catholics intuitively know. There is an impressive, coherent, logical unity to God’s law as we know it through Church teaching. Failures of vigilance and strict adherence to principle quickly shatter that unity. The scandal of Theodore McCarrick’s fall extends beyond his sexual crimes. It continues with an immoral policy legacy that continues to influence the hierarchy.

The history of the “McCarrick Doctrine” is a study of ecclesiastical mendacity. In June of 2004, then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger sent a letter to then-Cardinal McCarrick and then-Bishop Wilton Gregory, president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops. The instruction was in the context of dealing with Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry, a Catholic whose positions on abortion contradict church teachings. The Ratzinger letter affirms that denial of Communion is obligatory “regarding the grave sin of abortion or euthanasia.” Cardinal Ratzinger also wrote that a priest should warn “the person in question” of the consequences, including the denial of Communion. If “the person in question, with obstinate persistence, still presents himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, the minister of Holy Communion must refuse to distribute it.” Of course, Ratzinger was merely explicating Canon Law: “Those…obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion” (Can. 915). Catholic politicians like Kerry back then—and Biden (and many others) today—unambiguously fit the description.

Cardinal McCarrick, misrepresenting the Ratzinger letter, responded, “The question for us is not simply whether denial of Communion is possible, but whether it is pastorally wise and prudent.” As a result, during the meeting of the USCCB that year, the bishops voted 183-6 to approve a compromise statement allowing each bishop to decide whether to give Communion to “pro-choice” politicians. Bishop Gregory—who also received the letter—clearly agreed with McCarrick at the time, as he does today.


McCarrick defied the Pope and Canon Law
Reference what we know NOW...

Reconcile with everything going on and what is “out there”
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 10:00 am
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 10:15 am to
Even our masters don't know The webs we weave

One world, it's a battleground
One world, and we will smash it down
One world ... One world


https://romalocutaest.com/2020/12/24/why-did-mccarrick-visit-the-obama-biden-white-house-in-july-2013/

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Why did McCarrick visit the Obama/Biden White House in July 2013? Posted on December 24, 2020 by Steven O'Reilly


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December 24, 2020 (Steven O’Reilly) – Roma Locuta Est continues to explore and piece together the happenings surrounding and subsequent to the 2013 conclave which elected Cardinal Bergoglio, particularly as these relate to the ex-cardinal Theodore McCarrick. Our articles to date on the subject have been assembled in the The Conclave Chronicles. Roma Locuta Est recently came across an interesting piece of information on McCarrick. Before presenting it, let us review some of the background. McCarrick and the 2013 Conclave Archbishop Vigano in his Testimony had spoken of the “important part he (i.e., McCarrick) had played in his (i.e., Bergoglio’s) recent election” (p. 6); and of McCarrick subsequently traveling to China on behalf of Pope Francis in June 2013.

On these topics, Archbishop Vigano wrote:
On the morning of Thursday, June 20, 2013, I went to the Domus Sanctae Marthae, to join my colleagues who were staying there. As soon as I entered the hall I met Cardinal McCarrick, who wore the redtrimmed cassock. I greeted him respectfully as I had always done. He immediately said to me, in a tone somewhere between ambiguous and triumphant: “The Pope received me yesterday, tomorrow I am going to China.” At the time I knew nothing of his long friendship with Cardinal Bergoglio and of the important part he had played in his recent election, as McCarrick himself would later reveal in a lecture at Villanova University and in an interview with the National Catholic Reporter. Nor had I ever thought of the fact that he had participated in the preliminary meetings of the recent conclave, and of the role he had been able to have as a cardinal elector in the 2005 conclave. Therefore I did not immediately grasp the meaning of the encrypted message that McCarrick had communicated to me, but that would become clear to me in the days immediately following. (Testimony by His Excellency Carlo Maria Viganò, Titular Archbishop of Ulpiana, Apostolic Nuncio)

As Vigano noted in his Testimony, McCarrick revealed his role in the election of Pope Francis in a lecture given at the University of Villanova in October 2013. In that lecture (here) McCarrick spoke of how an “influential Italian gentleman” (who he did not name) visited him at the North American College in Rome before the 2013 conclave. Roma Locuta Est believes a potential candidate to be the mysterious visitor is Andrea Riccardi, who had connections to both Bergoglio and McCarrick (see The “Influential Italian Gentleman”: A Sant’Egidio Connection?). Whatever the case, this unnamed visitor requested that McCarrick ‘talk Bergoglio up‘ with other cardinals. By his own testimony in his lecture, prior to this meeting, McCarrick was unaware of anyone ‘talking up Bergoglio,’ and presumably this included himself. One question and answer — entirely absent in the Vatican’s recent McCarrick Report — is whether McCarrick actually did what his mysterious Italian visitor requested, i.e., to “talk up Bergoglio.” Roma Locuta Est’s research turned up contemporaneous evidence that McCarrick did in fact “tout the praises” of Bergoglio before the 2013 conclave, and this according to a now-deceased USCCB employee (see HERE). Separately, a Roma Locuta Est source also provided us a first hand account of McCarrick exclaiming “we did it!” following the election of Bergoglio, a reference the source understood at the time to mean McCarrick and others had campaigned to elect Bergoglio (see McCarrick on Bergoglio’s Election: “We did it!” and The “we” in “We did it!” — and what they did).


As far as what happened to McCarrick:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/world/europe/theodore-mccarrick-vatican.html

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Vatican Report Places Blame for McCarrick’s Ascent on John Paul II


Papa Francesco blamed someone else...

Quite a tangled web...
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 3:45 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:32 pm to
Bump to correlate with other content posted
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 10:47 pm to
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Seek therapy


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You need to get laid


Your therapist needs to get laid.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:31 am to
https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2021/15-january/news/world/massacre-of-750-reported-in-aksum-church-complex-tigray-ethiopia

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Massacre ‘of 750’ reported in Aksum church complex, Tigray, Ethiopia
by REBECCA PAVELEY 15 JANUARY 2021


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REPORTS of a massacre of 750 people in the cathedral complex that reputedly houses the Ark of the Covenant have emerged from the Tigray region of Ethiopia. Accounts have come from those who fled the town of Aksum and walked more than 200km to the regional capital, Mekelle.

The massacre was first reported in dispatches from the Belgium-based NGO European External Programme with Africa (EEPA). The area is sealed off to journalists, but many reports of massacres have nevertheless emerged, some of which have been documented by Amnesty International. The former BBC World Service Africa editor and Senior Research Fellow at the Institute of Commonwealth Studies, Martin Plaut, said that those who escaped the Aksum massacre had reported that the attack began after Ethiopian federal troops and Amhara militia approached the Church of St Mary of Zion.

Up to 1000 people were believed to be sheltering in the church complex. One of the chapels, the Chapel of the Tablet, is believed by Ethiopian Christians to contain the Ark of the Covenant, which is hidden from the view of everyone, apart from a single priest who never leaves the compound. Mr Plaut said: “People were worried about the safety of the Ark, and when they heard troops were approaching feared they had come to steal it. All those inside the cathedral were forced out into the square.”


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The Ark is believed by Ethiopian Orthodox Christians to have been hidden in Aksum by Menelik I, the son of King Solomon of Israel. The kingdom of Aksum was one of the four great powers of the ancient world, and the town of Aksum is a UNESCO World Heritage Site.


Gonna be Biblical
Buckle up
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