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re: Vietnam Era Boomers: Question for you.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:26 pm to Hangover Haven
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:26 pm to Hangover Haven
GenXer here. The only memory I have of it was the Huey being pushed into the sea during the fall of Saigon.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:29 pm to Zach
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Your link has no evidence of violence. A lot of 'there were reports that there might be.' There were no guards men hit by bricks. There was no breaking and looting into stores. This is a history article. I was an adult and watching in real time. These kids were obnoxious protesters. But they didn't deserve to be shot dead.
The link says on multiple occasions protestors threw rocks at guardsmen and the rotc building was burned down and there were fires started down town.
Here’s a pic of the burned building.
Is this a fake?
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:35 pm to Champagne
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Vietnam Era Boomers: Question for you.
During those years, how obvious was it that the US Left were actively rooting for the USA to lose that war and for the Viet Cong to win that war?
I ask because it is quite obvious to me today that the US Democratic Party is actively rooting for China and trying to damage the USA right now.
So, I'm wondering whether it was quite this obvious back in the day during that very tough war.
Thanks.
I'm not that old. But, if you go back and read or even just watch television, movies, documentaries, etc. of the 60s and 70s, it's almost humorous to see the same behaviors among the left:
* Anti-Americanism
* Referring to everyone that's not a leftist loon as a fascist, etc.
* Stoking racism claims to control minorities
* Stoking feminism to control women
Conservatives have been carrying these leftist pieces of shite for decades. The best case scenario is we continue to do that.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:38 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Here’s a pic of the burned building. Is this a fake?
1. You said they destroyed businesses. That's an odd place to put a business in the middle of a vacant field.
2. After the shootings there were also protests. LOTS of protests.
3. Within 2 days my local campus at USL had 100s of students signing up to join the SDS (see Tom Hayden). I don't know how many of them ever protested but they were pissed in very conservative areas like Lafayette, La.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:45 pm to McMillan
I’m not sure which was more eerie while watching the 5:30 news each day: Sort of serendipity moments.
— in March 1968, as a high school senior on the safe couch of home, I watched closely while the Marines fought off the NVA during the Siege of Khe Sanh. Almost exactly one year later I was a Marine fighting for my life in and around the same Khe Sanh hillsides.
— in the Spring of 1969 I spent a lot of time patrolling and defending a vibrant Vandegrif Combat Base which was built to replace Khe Sanh. Then, two Springs later on the 5:30 news, again from the safe couch of my home, I watched with disbelief when Russian-made NVA tanks rolled through the same gates that I had defended at Vandegrif.
Those two afternoon TV news events sort of bracketed the history of my youth. I had been the during, between before-and-after events.
— in March 1968, as a high school senior on the safe couch of home, I watched closely while the Marines fought off the NVA during the Siege of Khe Sanh. Almost exactly one year later I was a Marine fighting for my life in and around the same Khe Sanh hillsides.
— in the Spring of 1969 I spent a lot of time patrolling and defending a vibrant Vandegrif Combat Base which was built to replace Khe Sanh. Then, two Springs later on the 5:30 news, again from the safe couch of my home, I watched with disbelief when Russian-made NVA tanks rolled through the same gates that I had defended at Vandegrif.
Those two afternoon TV news events sort of bracketed the history of my youth. I had been the during, between before-and-after events.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:59 pm to MDB
As a young kid I remember watching the evening news and at the end of the news the list of KIA and MIA would scroll down the screen. Heart wrenching.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:59 pm to Zach
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1. You said they destroyed businesses. That's an odd place to put a business in the middle of a vacant field
No I didn’t. Another poster did. You said they were peaceful. I pointed out evidence to the contrary.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:00 pm to Zach
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3. Within 2 days my local campus at USL had 100s of students signing up to join the SDS (see Tom Hayden). I don't know how many of them ever protested but they were pissed in very conservative areas like Lafayette, La.
They probably believed the lies Walter Cronkite told them.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:02 pm to TigerMikeAtl
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got despised and spit on.
I’m very sorry to hear that. You guys deserved so much better.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:24 pm to Turbeauxdog
I thought i read that the protestors fired shots at the guardsmen first?
What is the actual claim here...that the NG boys just figured..."Hell..lets pops some of those hippies for shits and giggles!"
Doesn't sound credible.
What is the actual claim here...that the NG boys just figured..."Hell..lets pops some of those hippies for shits and giggles!"
Doesn't sound credible.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:30 pm to Snipe
There are many patriots from the boom boom
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:32 pm to themunch
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No protestors fired.
How do you know this?
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:35 pm to MDB
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However, it was when I returned to my “friends” at college or at the local Frostop Drive In that I was met with apathy and distancing. I was never verbally or physically abused. But you could feel the difference. Not being included, snickered at and avoided because you were merely a Vet hurt.
But, they also knew not to spit on me. It wouldn’t have ended well.
Agree, I never saw such abuse happen but I don’t doubt that it may have happened somewhere, sometime. The animosity was palpable.
for whatever it's worth this is almost exactly what my dad told me his return from there was like. He got back in 1970, and this was in NJ. There was no spitting and no open hostility at all, but there was this complete and total indifference, and you were made aware of the fact that no one wanted to hear a word about the war from you. It was considered beyond the pale to bring it up.
He may have had it better in a way though because he was already out of college. He didn't come home to a campus, he came back to his hometown and started looking for work and hanging out with old friends.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:38 pm to Dale51
Show me some evidence otherwise. Four Dead in Ohio rang out over Woodstock. I believe it helped unite the cause in a big way. Nixon threatened with the forces in DC to shut down protests. The US forces were on megaphones saying leave or be shot. I shite you not. I was there.
I am a patriot and would defend this land right now. It is hard at times to know who the trusted are. I would not trust a police to do anything but what he is told. Same with troops.
Just remember. I and many like me are no longer working as hires for the govt.
I am a patriot and would defend this land right now. It is hard at times to know who the trusted are. I would not trust a police to do anything but what he is told. Same with troops.
Just remember. I and many like me are no longer working as hires for the govt.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:39 pm to themunch
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:39 pm to MMauler
I used to keep my radio on Howard 100 all the time until when he interviewed "Hanoi Jane" a couple of years ago, calling her one of his heroes. I haven't listened to Stern again since, and have always wondered how he got a pass on that.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:41 pm to themunch
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Show me some evidence otherwise. Four Dead in Ohio rang out over Woodstock.
Four Dead In Ohio...Woodstock....
What would you accept as evidence?
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:43 pm to Dale51
So an FBI agent posing as a student lets off a round. Supposedly. Will not verify it.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:45 pm to themunch
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So an FBI agent posing as a student lets off a round.
What are you basing that claim on?
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