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re: Veteran banned from Disney World after holding ‘Trump 2020’ sign...
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:51 am to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:51 am to TbirdSpur2010
I'm sorry to hear that from one of the most respected people on this site. I didn't bring up the gay pride week but I have seen some nasty stuff and thought it was worth to explain. I see all sides and agree after he had a warning and still pushed it he got what was deserved. I just don't understand why some of these things blow up the way they do and lean from one to the other. Its less about me and my views and more about hoping adults would ignore this in a park instead of putting anyone at risk with an altercation. Hopefully I can gain some respect on here in due time!
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:54 am to Dantheman504
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hoping adults would ignore this in a park instead of putting anyone at risk with an altercation.
This vet was obviously bound and determined to act a fool and make a scene. There's zero wrong with how Disney handled it. Honestly, they were lenient. I'd have banned his weird MAGA butt from the park after his first offense tbh. It's pretty easy to see why it blew up this go-round. Last thing Disney wants is their parks turning into places where every tom, dick, and harry shows up just to politick and bother normal folks just there trying to have a good time with their families and friends.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 11:00 am to Dantheman504
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I just don't understand why some of these things blow up the way they do
Whataboutisms and outrage culture.
Both sides see injustices, so whether they truly think something is right or not they won't say it and have to point to the other side and say "what about this thing that they do!".
Without pointing fingers too much I feel it really started with the left and now the right is just tired or giving ground and losing.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 11:12 am to TbirdSpur2010
I agree and obviously they won't make a potitical pride week. I know its hard for Disney to control some of these things with the amount of people who vacation there. For me its the fact Disney is even worried that someone would be willing to cause violence in their parks over a banner. Its sad to know someone would try to do that around kids in Disney instead of just minding their own. But yes taking away the banners will hopefully stop any unnecessary responses which of course I'm ok with.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 11:29 am to Music_City_Tiger
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This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 11:32 am
Posted on 11/14/18 at 11:33 am to SLafourche07
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There's just not much you can do when 1000s of gay people show up in Orlando and take over every theme park
So, if 1,000s of skinheads showed up down there at the same time in the same week every year, Disney would turn a blind eye and allow it to continue to happen? Or hell for that matter Black Panthers?
Posted on 11/14/18 at 11:42 am to The Maj
I'm sure a skin head convention and black panther party would be handled similarly as each other.
ETA: but why are you comparing racist groups to a bunch of gays?
Do you think if 1,000s of church parishioners vacationed together to Disney World wearing Jesus shirts they would be treated unfairly?
ETA: but why are you comparing racist groups to a bunch of gays?
Do you think if 1,000s of church parishioners vacationed together to Disney World wearing Jesus shirts they would be treated unfairly?
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 11:44 am
Posted on 11/14/18 at 11:44 am to Music_City_Tiger
Veteran or not, people go to forget their troubles not to be badgered by politics
Posted on 11/14/18 at 11:49 am to LuckyTiger
To test his theory, he should have held a Hillary 2016 or 2020 sign.
If they didn’t kick him out for that, he would have a valid argument that it was the content of his sign they WDW truly objected to.
If they didn’t kick him out for that, he would have a valid argument that it was the content of his sign they WDW truly objected to.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 11:57 am to Dantheman504
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I already knew that if you actually read what I was responding to MORON. I was explaining to him that they do authorize it when he claimed they just show up and can't stop it. My point was that they are authorizing a gay pride week in Disney but a banner can be seen as more harmful for children. I don't have a problem with a pride week but I've been there and have seen some provocative things while im walking in Disney World let me remind you. My point is that Disney is more concerned about losing (adult) customers because of a Trump banner over protectng young kids from seeing things they shouldn't that could have a greater impact. Just seems Disney is choosing adult customers > safe environment for kids. Not to mention that only liberals are going to start a fight in Disney over a Trump banner because that's more important to them then making sure there kids just have a good time. They have a pride week with no violence from people who don't like it but ban a guy for a Trump sign because of possible violence..
Who gives a shite, don't like it go open your park. Moron World, you and texridder could be partners.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 11:57 am to SLafourche07
I believe his point is that they are willingly let them in. But I think that's irrelevant to to the fact that 1000s of gays can storm a Disney every year and although it can get weird people will try to ignore it. Meanwhile 1 guy with a Trump banner fetish appears and its now WWIII and we have to protect all these people from the violence and rhetoric it can cause. Just seems a little outlandish
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:07 pm to Dantheman504
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Meanwhile 1 guy with a Trump banner fetish appears and its now WWIII and we have to protect all these people from the violence and rhetoric it can cause
Where has this ever been said? If you show me I'll agree that those people are little snowflake idiots.
My positiom and what I believe I read DWs position is is it was the use of the flag and signs in general, and not the the content that was the reason he was removed.
If you can show me some group of gays flying around a rainbow flag and nothing being done then I'll agree that theirs a double standard.
Otherwise the gays can buy whatever group shirt they want, just like you and your buddies can all wear MAGA hats and NRA shirts and nothing will happen.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:26 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
The fact that this is all you have seen me say and have the confidence to compare me with texridder is astonishing.. Ive been lurking here long enough to know you are dead wrong. Its also sad you already have such a strong opinion of me. Not to mention your input in the discussion with me included only "you are a moron" and "who gives a shite". I'd be happy to hear you out and gain some clarity. But I think due to your lack of good input to my discussion and premature judgment of me it may be hard to gain any ground.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:46 pm to Dantheman504
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The fact that this is all you have seen me say and have the confidence to compare me with texridder is astonishing.. Ive been lurking here long enough to know you are dead wrong. Its also sad you already have such a strong opinion of me. Not to mention your input in the discussion with me included only "you are a moron" and "who gives a shite". I'd be happy to hear you out and gain some clarity. But I think due to your lack of good input to my discussion and premature judgment of me it may be hard to gain any ground.
After 25 years in law enforcement I have a highly tuned ability to correctly suss a person out with very little interaction. It was clear to me after reading three of your posts that you aren't very smart.
IQ in the low to mid 90s I'd say. Which I mean that would make you a deep thinker in the Democratic Party, but .........
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:07 pm to Nguyener
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Do we seriously have to force a political discussion into the middle of Disney World. I am a trump supporter and I would be annoyed seeing a guy holding up a trump2020 sign in Disney World. It's annoying. Not every single interaction in every single day of life has to be political.
I agree.
I'm a big Trump supporter but there needs to be places where people can go to just enjoy a few moments with their family and get away from politics from either side.
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:34 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
The fact that you are assuming and calling me a Democrat because you think I'm low IQ is pathetic mainly because I think nothing like them and can't stand their views. I was respectful to everyone and had good progressive conversations even after being called dumb. Does that sound like a low IQ democrat? I agree the guy was wrong and the actions taken were right. I also agree I was idiotic for not fully reading the article and understanding it wasn't because of what was on the banner. Regardless of the banner, their are people in this word who would start something in Disney over what is on it. And i don't think you can tell me without a doubt that is not a factor they took into account as a reason to ban them in todays world besides obvious concern issues. My point is that the safety of the kids was never really part of this conversation whether it be from the banner hitting one or violence because of whats on it. The story is about the politics behind it and I was trying to find the moral ground between the two instead of wanting to just come here and piss people off. The irony of you acting so bitter, one sided, and judgmental, while calling me a Demorcat without knowing me is poetic. Go cool off and drink some coffee damn.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:58 pm to Music_City_Tiger
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Veteran banned from Disney World after being an attention-grabbing douche who endangered other patrons by being an attention-grabbing douche.
FIFY, and I'm MAGA.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 2:10 pm to Dantheman504
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don't think you can tell me without a doubt that is not a factor they took into account as a reason to ban them in todays world
He could have unfurled a sign with a pro-leftist message and he would have gotten the same treatment. Especially if he'd already been warned to knock it off.
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the safety of the kids was never a part of the conversation
Try acting a fool on a Disney ride for any reason and watch what happens.
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