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re: Vance was weak on the stolen 2020 election

Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:36 pm to
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
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Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:36 pm to
On a debate stage this is probably a lose-lose subject.

The problem is there are defendents who have been found guilty or pled. That is fact that is inescapable which in any debate can be brought up and that ends it.

Not everybody shares our sense of disdain for the judicial system and still believe in it. For them lawfare doesn't exist because it can't exist in the America they [think] live in. So there's still a huge portion that believe in the 'if they were found guilty they obviously did something wrong' combined wit the left that knows what's up. Those two groups combined overwhelm those that find those prosecutions at least biased, if not outright politicized.

So they can always fall back on that.

And not one US Senator ever proclaimed "they are being railroaded". So there's not any voices in the wilderness for someone like Vance to fall back on. It's just him, Trump, and us. No one is going to hear us and if Vance says it they only hear Trump.
Posted by threedog79
Member since Sep 2013
3847 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:39 pm to
I thought he did fine. He is trained in law and hopefully he took trial advocacy. A main rule in trial advocacy outside of never asking a question you don’t already know the answer to is NEVER bring gas to a fire. They were baiting him for a sound bite to play on a loop and he skillfully maneuvered around it. Excellent job, JD.
Posted by HEtiger
Member since May 2008
1860 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:49 pm to
I thought JD could have reminded everyone that Trump did request 10,000 national guardsmen and was denied by Pelosi. That is a fricking important fact that would have headed off the shitstorm.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:05 am to
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PIsses me off they keep going along with the Dem narrative and not pushing back on the theft. Not one mention of stopping the count, kicking out observers and counting in secret until the flipped the election at 4 am in the morning


I do agree with you.
But that's a tactic they'd have used on 45, to try to derail him. They tried it on Vance, and he didn't let them.
Posted by LSUbacchus81
Hendersonville, TN
Member since Aug 2007
5887 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:27 am to
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the frick you say. The very situation we are in economically is because of the stolen election. People want to memory hole the theft but Im not one of them



We don't want to overlook it, but unfortunately, the msm has managed to spin this in a way that paints Trump and the MAGA movement as "election deniers." It sucks I know.
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