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re: Vance thinks aliens are actually demons
Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:14 am to CIGAR_cigarillo
Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:14 am to CIGAR_cigarillo
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You're pretty much too dumb to even be in this conversation
Cool.
Gonna contend with anything I say or be a bitch and sit this one out?
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:17 pm to Captain Rumbeard
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They're the same thing mostly.
I have yet to see a good argument against this idea. What one person calls an alien could very well be a demon and vice versa.
Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:44 pm to hawgfaninc
There were several UFO researchers working with the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) that documented several hundred cases where the found a commonality that invoking the name of Jesus Christ ceased the abduction experience. Joe Jordan, Wes Clark and Gary Bates were the names of these researchers. The documentation of this many cases (over 400 caes) offers some tangible evidence that something dark is at work here. These researchers also claim that other investigator had similar findings but kept them off the record for fear of the professional reputation.
Furthermore, there are claims on the occult side of a ritual performed by occultist in early Jan 1946 through several months involving what they called the Babalon rituals later was brought up by the Collins Elite. Some of the claims even then were that that ritual opened a door. some of the claims were that Jack Parson was involved as well as L Ron Hubbard and that the craft was a bait to humanity in order to later deceive people away from God. some of the ideas are even shown plainly out in publicly mentioning the return of a "goddess". Is this Hathor? IDK but could shed light on idea around the whore of Babylon in revelation.
Furthermore, there are claims on the occult side of a ritual performed by occultist in early Jan 1946 through several months involving what they called the Babalon rituals later was brought up by the Collins Elite. Some of the claims even then were that that ritual opened a door. some of the claims were that Jack Parson was involved as well as L Ron Hubbard and that the craft was a bait to humanity in order to later deceive people away from God. some of the ideas are even shown plainly out in publicly mentioning the return of a "goddess". Is this Hathor? IDK but could shed light on idea around the whore of Babylon in revelation.
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:31 pm to hawgfaninc
Sounds about right for the reaction the government might have. Making alien beings demonic and feared. I wanna kill.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:54 am to Mo Jeaux
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. Is it that you think ancient peoples saw aliens and called them demons because they didn’t understand them?
Possibly.
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want to understand what I’m dealing with when I speak with you, because the etymology of the words, and the historical development of the two concepts are very different.
Yes and if you want to stick with the historical definition of both and make the argument they arent interchangeable that's fine But IF these things actually exist, depending on a number of factors we may not be able to distinguish them.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:04 am to djsdawg
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I have yet to see a good argument against this idea. What one person calls an alien could very well be a demon and vice versa.
You're just playing the name game, at this point.
Are they biological beings created by biological/evolutionary processes on another planet or are they ethereal beings created by God around this planet?
It is somewhat irrelevant what someone calls them. The discussion is about what these things are, and if they are the same thing (which would mean they're all in one group or the other group and not this bait and switch name game)
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:15 am to SlowFlowPro
I think it's actually somewhat important. I don't like hearing people from our government call them demons because that essentially gives people an out so as not to learn more about it. People can just be like, "oh, they're supernatural beings" and call it a day.
Nah, they're not supernatural beings. They are flesh and blood and were here before we were creating miraculous things. We should study this stuff, not let superstition take over.
Nah, they're not supernatural beings. They are flesh and blood and were here before we were creating miraculous things. We should study this stuff, not let superstition take over.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:16 am to AlterEd
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were here before we were creating miraculous things.
Eh.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:18 am to AlterEd
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I think it's actually somewhat important. I don't like hearing people from our government call them demons because that essentially gives people an out so as not to learn more about it. People can just be like, "oh, they're supernatural beings" and call it a day.
Nah, they're not supernatural beings. They are flesh and blood and were here before we were creating miraculous things. We should study this stuff, not let superstition take over.
FWIW, there can be both demons/angels and aliens.
I agree the men in flying saucers are aliens, though. Not this demon/angel silliness.
As I said earlier, also, this gets a lot more complicated if we are discussing the "multiple dimension" option, but that would lead to a larger discussion about gods and religion that probably would take this thread off the rails.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:19 am to Mo Jeaux
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Eh
Have you not seen what they're starting to discover below the pyramids? This shite goes down like half a mile into the earth.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:24 am to SlowFlowPro
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I agree the men in flying saucers are aliens, though. Not this demon/angel silliness
I'm still sticking with a precursor civilization. They likely, imo, believe that the Earth is theirs, not ours. I believe this previously advanced civilization was all but wiped off the map during the younger dryas event and once we started kinda rebuilding early people from this civilization, having been slammed back into the stone age saw these people as Gods when they would occasionally come round in their flying machines.
There also appears to have been a nuclear war that happened sometime around the same timeframe as the younger dryas event.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:25 am to AlterEd
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Have you not seen what they're starting to discover below the pyramids?
We’ve know about shafts under mastabas since the early 20th century.
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This shite goes down like half a mile into the earth.
Only if you’re a “alien guy” with a YouTube channel.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:26 am to Mo Jeaux
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Only if you’re a “alien guy” with a YouTube channel.
Incorrect. As I've just said, I'm not an "alien guy" at all really. And this stuff is all but confirmed now. They have continued mapping it out and other researchers have confirmed their findings.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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I have yet to see a good argument against this idea. What one person calls an alien could very well be a demon and vice versa.
You're just playing the name game, at this point.
Are they biological beings created by biological/evolutionary processes on another planet or are they ethereal beings created by God around this planet?
We are trying to open the discussion beyond these very limited definitions. That seems to annoy you for some reason.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:34 am to AlterEd
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And this stuff is all but confirmed now. They have continued mapping it out and other researchers have confirmed their findings.
I do not think that this is true.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:38 am to ThuperThumpin
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We are trying to open the discussion beyond these very limited definitions.
Then you're not talking about aliens and demons anymore, if you're talking about stuff outside of those examples.
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That seems to annoy you for some reason.
It doesn't annoy me
When people post silly stuff I comment about the silliness.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:38 am to Mo Jeaux
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I do not think that this is true
Well you would be wrong. It has been verified four different times by independent teams at this point.
It's actually very exciting stuff, imo.
This post was edited on 3/30/26 at 10:39 am
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:43 am to AlterEd
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Radar expert Prof Lawrence Conyers from the University of Denver called the claims a “huge exaggeration,” stating that the technology used – radar pulses from a satellite, similar to how sonar radar is used to map the ocean – couldn’t penetrate that deep into the earth.
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In a similar vein, Egyptian archaeologist Dr Zahi Hawass told The National that the researchers were "completely wrong”, and argued that their so-called discovery lacks any scientific basis.
You claimed that it’s been verified that this “underground city” is there, and that’s just not true.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:46 am to Mo Jeaux
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You claimed that it’s been verified that this “underground city” is there, and that’s just not true.
No, what I claimed is that they were here before us building miraculous things. The image I shared suggested an underground city and you ran with that, but that isn't what I said. I wonder why you're being dishonest.
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In a similar vein, Egyptian archaeologist Dr Zahi Hawass told The National that the researchers were "completely wrong”, and argued that their so-called discovery lacks any scientific basis.
frickin Zahi Hawass. Really? That's like quoting Baghdad Bob. Look, he doesn't know shite about this. He is not a satellite operator in a position to verify this one way or the other. And he hasn't been down there either because once you get about 50 feet below the surface you hit a water table. Get out of here with that nonsense. The structures are there and they are massive and they stretch far below the earth. This has been verified by four independent teams. Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:49 am to AlterEd
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frickin Zahi Hawass. Really?
I knew you'd get triggered
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