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re: VA Gov vetoes bill to investigate proven voter fraud in Virginia

Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:54 am to
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:54 am to
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Because illegal votes are cast in minuscule amounts. Legal voters are disenfranchised at astronomically higher rates when voter ID laws are enacted.


Get a fricking ID.

It's really just that simple.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35578 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:56 am to
What is your definition of "disenfranchised"?

This originally meant that people were not allowed to vote, or extreme barriers were in place to prevent them from voting. Today, it is any mere inconvenience.

There is no being on earth more fragile than a democratic voter.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:56 am to
From the thread Bamatool is ignoring.

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The most recent review of the database found 385 non-citizens registered to vote in Ohio, 82 of whom voted in at least one election. Combined with findings reported in 2013 and 2015, this third pass brings the total of non-citizens identified as registered to vote to 821.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:59 am to
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link?


LINK

Clearly you're being intentionally ignorant - it's incredibly easy to search for those data.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:00 am to
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That's the problem with voting today, we let people vote that have no idea what their voting for.


True, but having, or not having, a voter id card doesn't have anything to do with this. In reality though, the political parties prefer it this way. It's one of the main reasons they push for the big "All D", "All R" boxes at the top of the ballot.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:00 am to
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your
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Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49547 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:00 am to
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the left thinks that voters are so delicate that any pressure, from ID requires to potential investigations, will cause the whole house of cards to tumble.

It would certainly reduce their aces in the hole. In close races, they can count on corrupt precinct officials in heavily DEM areas to use those cherry-registrations to fill out the required quotas from their areas.

The DEMs are getting squeezed by the public's unavoidable observation of their corruption, hate, bigotry, irrationality, and amorality. Any decent person recoils with disgust from the DEM tactics.

Having control over a great pool of 'votes' in contested states is fast becoming one of their most potent weapons. They cannot win with logic by defending their real goals. They have to continue their identity politics to hold on to their fanatical base and hope for the best from ghetto voting areas.

DEMs are like dog vomit on the doorstep. You would like to ignore it, but you have to do the dirty work to get that shite cleaned up.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:01 am to
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What is your definition of "disenfranchised"?


A voter who would otherwise be allowed to vote not being allowed to do so by a voter id law is one good definition of many.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56147 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:01 am to
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Asked before. Provided before. The links are on this board.


Then you should have no trouble in locating them to post.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35578 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:02 am to
They also underplay it when small numbers of illegal votes are found, when they know this makes a big difference in local elections.

Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77779 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:02 am to
Herman Cain uses a phrase to describe Democrats' ideology for thinks like voter ID laws. He calls it "the soft racism of low expectations." To hear lefty advocates tell it, black folks and other minorities are too dumb to get themselves down to the gubmint office and sign their X on the form for the free state ID.

THAT line of thinking is what's deplorable and irredeemable.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35578 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:04 am to
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A voter who would otherwise be allowed to vote not being allowed to do so by a voter id law is one good definition of many.


Do you have the same definitions for other constitutional rights?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:06 am to
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Then you should have no trouble in locating them to post.


Enjoy!
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:07 am to
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Do you have the same definitions for other constitutional rights?


What other constitutional rights, off the top of your head, are Republicans trying to take away without a valid reason?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56147 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:08 am to
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Enjoy


A third grader recess response. Go outside and play.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:12 am to
I'm not going to do the homework of every yokel who comes to this issue for the first time and thinks they know the answer without even considering how Google works.

Back in class for you.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56147 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:14 am to
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I'm not going to do the homework of every yokel who comes to this issue for the first time and thinks they know the answer without even considering how Google works.



If you can't show it, it isn't there.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35578 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:14 am to
What does political party have to do with this issue? Rights are rights.

There are allowed restrictions on many of our rights, from Speech to gun ownership.

If a state provides ID, free of charge, there is no valid argument against it.

Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:18 am to
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When flimsy pretexts like this are used to pass bills that wrongly deprive Americans of their right to vote.

Thats just dumb.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:20 am to
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Because illegal votes are cast in minuscule amounts. Legal voters are disenfranchised at astronomically higher rates when voter ID laws are enacted.


Thats just dumb.
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