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re: U.S. sending weapons directly to Kurdish forces, officials say

Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:21 pm to
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Who cares?

I don't.
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It truly is disgusting how people of this country allow it to be manipulated and used solely for profit.

Yep.
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A good start might be to stop creating, training and funding such groups.

Not a bad idea.
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 3:24 pm
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:37 pm to
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Everybody is rooting for the Kurds, but how many times have we seen "unintended consequences" in the Middle East. It seems like pretty much every time. I guess I'm OK with limited involvement - and saving the women and children....but....this really is a complete clustercuss.

It almost make you yearn for the good ole' days of Saddam Hussein. He was the only one who could control the region...and that's exactly what it takes: a brutal dictator. That's the only thing that can hold it together.



Hussein had actually dialed down his brutal dictator operations quite a bit by the time we invaded the 2nd time.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68526 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:44 pm to
Guess we should have let The Kurds establish their own country and government?
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:48 pm to
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Hussein had actually dialed down his brutal dictator operations quite a bit by the time we invaded the 2nd time.

This is true. Do you ever wonder why? Do you think it may have had something to do with the fact that we no longer needed his services in regard to "doing the dirty" to Iran?
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35702 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 4:15 pm to
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Hussein had actually dialed down his brutal dictator operations quite a bit by the time we invaded the 2nd time.



This is true. Do you ever wonder why? Do you think it may have had something to do with the fact that we no longer needed his services in regard to "doing the dirty" to Iran?
Yes, I've always found it interesting how overnight these guys turn from allies to murdering dictators the minute they threaten the Petro Dollar or the international banking cabal.

I'm sure it's just coincidence.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48952 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 4:39 pm to
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I'm sure it's just coincidence

It's not your fault. you are wired this way.

From Scientific American:

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University of Kent psychologists Michael J. Wood, Karen M. Douglas and Robbie M. Sutton in a paper entitled “Dead and Alive: Beliefs in Contradictory Conspiracy Theories,” published in the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science this past January. The authors begin by defining a conspiracy theory as “a proposed plot by powerful people or organizations working together in secret to accomplish some (usually sinister) goal” that is “notoriously resistant to falsification … with new layers of conspiracy being added to rationalize each new piece of disconfirming evidence.” Once you believe that “one massive, sinister conspiracy could be successfully executed in near-perfect secrecy, [it] suggests that many such plots are possible.” With this cabalistic paradigm in place, conspiracies can become “the default explanation for any given event—a unitary, closed-off worldview in which beliefs come together in a mutually supportive network known as a monological belief system.”


LINK /

This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 5:02 pm to
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It's funny the right sees this now, the left has been getting ridiculed for saying this for the past decade.


The left does seem to have this deep rooted love for brutal dictators.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35702 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 5:03 pm to
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The authors begin by defining a conspiracy theory as “a proposed plot by powerful people or organizations working together in secret to accomplish some (usually sinister) goal
You mean like Al Qaeda, Osama Bin Laden, the Taliban, Saddam Hussein plotting secretly in some cave somewhere to attack America on 9/11?

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Once you believe that “one massive, sinister conspiracy could be successfully executed in near-perfect secrecy, [it] suggests that many such plots are possible.”
You mean like God, Jesus, religion, the political party system, etc. etc.?

Hey BONDS, thanks for the link man. It really provided some insight on how you people think.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48952 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 5:05 pm to
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Hey BONDS, thanks for the link man. It really provided some insight on how you people think.



Its science.....
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
73182 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 5:06 pm to
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Wonderful. So when ISIS, or whatever they want to be called, uses their existing US made/supplied weapons to overrun the Kurds, they will have more US made/supplied weapons to use.


And round and round we go.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15054 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 5:22 pm to
If true the Turks are going to completely flip their shite. There would've been an independent Kurdistan years ago if Turkey wasn't a NATO member.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22523 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 5:22 pm to
They should send weapons to the Ukraine government also so they can arm the Ukrainian army.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35702 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 5:27 pm to
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Hey BONDS, thanks for the link man. It really provided some insight on how you people think.


Its science.....
I'm just glad someone took the time to try and figure out how you lunatics think.

Thanks again for the link.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11035 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 5:28 pm to
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a brutal dictator. That's the only thing that can hold it together.


Either this or a monarchy is the only kind of govt. that works across the ME. The male populace in these countries are just too prone to radicalism for democracy to work in the long run.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 5:35 pm to
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Hussein had actually dialed down his brutal dictator operations quite a bit by the time we invaded the 2nd time.



Well that changes everything.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48952 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 5:48 pm to
you obviously only read the summary and not the actual study. Not surprising. I am glad you agree with the findings....you aren't going to like the underlying "conspiracies". Not your fault, though. It's just how you are wired.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69416 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:50 pm to
Better than the alternative.

Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:22 pm to
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Better than the alternative.


If you are the one being brutalized, it matters little if the person brutalizing you used to be worse.
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
5981 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:33 pm to
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Hussein had actually dialed down his brutal dictator operations quite a bit by the time we invaded the 2nd time.



Nope
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:37 pm to
About fricking time!

The administration is getting it right, it's just that it's all reactionary. They are not very strategic.
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