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re: US Senate votes to TERMINATE President Trump's 50% tariffs on Brazilian imports, 52-48.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 5:19 pm to PurpleCrush
Posted on 10/29/25 at 5:19 pm to PurpleCrush
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Congress SHOULD be managing tarrifs, no Don
Indeed. In the end the courts will be the check and balance since Trump skipped congressional approval.
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Posted on 10/29/25 at 5:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
If we are lucky they will, not so sure tho.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 5:30 pm to SDVTiger
I watched him on the Benny Show the other day and it was by far the most awkward interview I have ever watched on Benny’s show
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:39 pm to BestBanker
So, can't POTUS veto?
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:40 pm to GumboPot
Nothing worse than a rino!
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Indeed. In the end the courts will be the check and balance since Trump skipped congressional approval.
In order for the US to use tariffs to counter trade imbalances you need to be able to adjust quickly. Congress is about as quick as a slug. Good luck using tariffs for ending wars, keeping us from getting screwed, and balancing trade deficits. Plus, they vote for anything benefitting them, their family, and most importantly their reelection. Good luck with that.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:02 pm to Warboo
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In order for the US to use tariffs to counter trade imbalances you need to be able to adjust quickly. Congress is about as quick as a slug.
Congress is supposed to be a slow approval process, which is why we prefer it to one persons arbitrary vision.
Gridlock used to be a board favorite word until 2016.
We also disagree that the "trade imbalance" is harmful because imports are one of the only ways small business can compete with economies of scale.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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We also disagree that the "trade imbalance" is harmful because imports are one of the only ways small business can compete with economies of scale.
Corporations own economies of scale and not the small businesses. You are looking at some of this backwards. It is comparable to the argument of “what comes first?….the chicken or the egg”?
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:11 pm to Warboo
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Corporations own economies of scale and not the small businesses.
Duh.. Which is why small business relies on cheaper components to compete. I believe you read that wrong.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Duh.. Which is why small business relies on cheaper components to compete. I believe you read that wrong.
Here is the thing Roger, corporations or big companies are going to get cheaper prices because they buy train loads rather than a truck load. The tariffs affect both the same. If a corporation can buy product x for 90 cents because they buy a train load and the small businesses has to pay 95 cents for product x because they only buy a truck load does not change the fact that both are paying for the tariff percentage. Economies of scale are not influenced by tariffs.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:47 pm to Warboo
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Here is the thing Roger, corporations or big companies are going to get cheaper prices because they buy train loads rather than a truck load.
Correct, and the small business imports cheaper components to be able to compete against the economies of scale.
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The tariffs affect both the same.
They dont impact them the same. Your big corps can eat some of the cost of tariffs, small business cannot. Big Corps can also weather the storm better than mom and pop, and outlast them. The tariffs put small business at a disadvantage.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:59 pm to wackatimesthree
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Why only Brazil?
JBS and Marfrig - two of the big four meat packers controlling 85% of the meat consumed in the US. Their subsidiaries are massive political donors.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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They dont impact them the same
Wrong Roger, the percentage is the same.
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Your big corps
I am a small business owner, so not sure where you are getting this “your big corps” is coming from?
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Your big corps can eat some of the cost of tariffs, small business cannot
How, if the tariff percentage is the same, going to change the difference of a small business and big corps increased cost?
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Big Corps can also weather the storm better than mom and pop, and outlast them.
Well yeah. What does that have to do with tariffs? Walmart type businesses have been killing mom and pop stores for decades. Mean while tariffs from other countries have been killing both for decades.
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The tariffs put small business at a disadvantage.
There is no difference. Both pay the tariffs. Economy of scale puts the big business in an advantage regardless of tariffs.
You are mad at big business. You should be mad at how the US as a whole has been butt fricked by the rest of the world through trade. That includes tariffs, currency manipulation, etc.
This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:09 pm to Warboo
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Wrong Roger, the percentage is the same.
The impact is not. Not even close.
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How, if the tariff percentage is the same, going to change the difference of a small business and big corps increased cost?
Because, big business can eat the cost of some of the tariffs while smaller business cannot. Big business also has the capital to outlast smaller businesses and family operated places.
This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:12 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The impact is not. Not even close.
Percentages do not lie Roger.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:13 pm to Warboo
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Percentages do not lie Roger.
You dont seem to understand the meaning of the word "impact."
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:15 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Because, big business can eat the cost of some of the tariffs while smaller business cannot. Big business also has the capital to outlast smaller businesses and family operated places.
See the post above. You are mad at big business. Economies of scale has nothing to do with tariffs.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:16 pm to Warboo
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See the post above. You are mad at big business.
No, you dont understand what "impact" means.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You dont seem to understand the meaning of the word "impact."
You do not seem to understand “economies of scale”.
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