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re: US Army signs contract to develop advanced technologies based on UAPs (UFOs)

Posted on 10/20/19 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 10/20/19 at 12:03 pm to
TLDR

I'm currently watching the X-files... The Truth is out there.

Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 10/20/19 at 12:48 pm to
TTSA basically handcuffed the military to admit this by having the metamaterial, but they are doing so in a way that makes it appear as though TTSA acquired this tech first and they are learning of its capabilities in the moment.

Hold on to your hats if true, this changes everything.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 10/20/19 at 12:57 pm to
Now is when we need the goddamn media to be doing their jobs.

CNN, MSNBC, FOX, et al, should be all over the Pentagon demanding answers. If they would just do that the Gov would have to address it. We need a Pentagon press briefing on the subject. ASAP
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 10/20/19 at 1:51 pm to
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Parmen


Check this out

They get into mythology a bunch (Greek and others)
They have a segment on Antarctica, Lovecraft and "At the Mountain of Madness"

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/10/aliens-origin-story-chestbursts-anew-in-stirring-new-documentary/

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Alien’s origin story chestbursts anew in stirring new documentary
Surprising new stories, insight uncover a refreshing take on Scott’s classic.

JENNIFER OUELLETTE - 10/11/2019, 1:20 PM


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Memory opens with an odd, almost theatrical sequence depicting the three Furies at the Oracle of Delphi in ancient Greece—our first clue that Philippe is exploring much more than just a behind-the-scenes look at the making of a film (much of which is detailed on the film's extensive Wikipedia page anyway). According to Philippe, opening with such an idiosyncratic scene, so atypical of your standard documentary, was a means of conveying his central theme of our shared cultural dreams and collective mythological unconscious. Certain images, narratives, and other elements in the film resonate with us in ways we can't quite put a finger on.

At one point, Philippe likens the concept to cymatics, in which plates or membranes vibrate in resonance with sound waves to produce patterns on their surface that reflect the substrate's modal vibrations. (Chladni plates are the most well-known example of the phenomenon, where sand is sprinkled on the surface and the grains arrange themselves along those nodal lines.) For Philippe, cultural resonances work in a similar way. "None of this is conscious, for Scott, for Giger, or for [screenwriter] Dan O'Bannon," he said. "To me, this proposes the idea that myths are alive on a certain level and that stories periodically come back to us at times when we need to see them or to be told them again. And there are storytellers out there who can tune in on the frequency of a particular myth."


Weird and fascinating stuff indeed

I have rifted on Aliens, Prometheus and Ridley Scott in other threads...
This post was edited on 10/20/19 at 1:52 pm
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
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Posted on 10/20/19 at 3:34 pm to
Just another way of rendering the population at large defenseless against these technologies
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Posted on 10/20/19 at 4:08 pm to
Racist
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:31 pm to


https://asc.army.mil/web/news-alt-ond19-fall-issue-of-alt-magazine-asks-how-to-support-future-force/

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FALL ISSUE OF AL&T MAGAZINE ASKS HOW TO SUPPORT FUTURE FORCE
October 1, 2019Army ALT Magazine
Posted by omegaman66
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:35 pm to
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The US Army is on record of acknowledging the phenomena and now building white world tech...


DS pushing the UFO narrative pretty hard. They haven't abandoned any of their plans because of Trump yet. Alien invasion (DS actually) in your future.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:38 pm to
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Parmen


Watching Alien, noted something

In the first 10 minutes of the movie when the crew is trying to figure out why they were awakened earlier, Ripley sends out a call repeating the following:

“Ripley: This is commercial towing vehicle Nostromo out of the Solomons, registration number 1-8-0-niner-2-4-6-0-niner. Calling Antarctica traffic control.”

Heavy Saturn symbology in the system they are in...
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Posted by Goforit
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:23 pm to
We should make a deal with the aliens. For more technology, we will give them all the dems. They can do experiments or turn them into a viable food source.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:57 pm to
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gravity manipulation capabilities


I’m pretty sure some long range bombers have had this for a while.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 5:58 pm to
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30499/the-truth-is-the-military-has-been-researching-anti-gravity-for-nearly-70-years

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The Truth Is The Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 70 Years It sounds like science fiction, but the military began working to overcome and harness gravity in the 1950s. From what we can tell, it never stopped.

BY BRETT TINGLEYOCTOBER 29, 2019


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In our dive into what seems like something of a bottomless rabbit hole of government studies into this exotic scientific realm, we have collected a body of research, news reports, and firsthand accounts. These establish the fact that the types of "anti-gravity", propellantless propulsion, and mass reduction technologies described in the Navy’s recent "UFO" patents are at least based on more than 60 years of peer-reviewed research conducted and published by the likes of the American Institute of Physics, NASA, the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, and the Air Force Research Laboratory.

While we can't say that any of this research led to actually being able to harness "anti-gravity" or extremely advanced next-generation propulsion technologies to any useful extent, the most advanced laboratories under control of both the armed forces and the academic world have certainly been trying their best to get there for the better part of a century. Also, keep in mind that all of this information comes from unclassified sources, and there is definitely more of it than just what is represented here. We can only wonder how much work has been done in the classified realm on what was once openly considered the next massive revolution in aerospace technology.


Black world tech vs the “others”

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Throughout his short speech given at the roundtable, Witten says that even though he faced ridicule within the scientific community for his research, there was no shortage of people who would tell him they knew how to achieve anti-gravity:

“Some of them were very simple ideas. The simple ideas are always hard to combat. Suppose somebody comes to you and says 'I have a rock of bismuth that demonstrates anti-gravity.' What do you do? There was a Vice President of the Martin Company who brought that up, he said 'I read about a guy in Indiana who says a rock of bismuth…' I said 'It’s nonsense.' He said ‘How do you know it’s nonsense? How do you know there’s no isotope of bismuth that shows anti-gravity?' What do you say to that?”


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Still, Talbert points out that some of the brightest minds in aerospace engineering and physics were devoted to studying gravity at the time, studies which led to important breakthroughs in general relativity:

The current efforts to understand gravity and universal gravitation both at the sub-atomic level and at the level of the universe have the positive backing today of many of America's outstanding physicists.

These include Dr. Edward Teller of the University of California, who received prime credit for developing the hydrogen bomb; Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer, director of the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton; Dr. Freeman J. Dyson, theoretical physicist at the Institute, and Dr. John A. Wheeler, professor of physics at Princeton University who made important contributions to America's first nuclear fission project. It must be stressed that scientists in this group approach the problem only from the standpoint of pure research. They refuse to predict exactly in what directions the search will lead or whether it will be successful beyond broadening human knowledge generally.


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Grover Loening, who was the first graduate in aeronautics in an American university and the first engineer hired by the Wright Brothers, holds similar views. Over a period of forty years, Mr. Loening has had a distinguished career as an aircraft designer and builder and recently was decorated by the United States Air Force for his work as a special scientific consultant. "I firmly believe that before long man will acquire the ability to build an electromagnetic contra-gravity mechanism that works," he says. "Much the same line of reasoning that enabled scientists to split up atomic structures also will enable them to learn the nature of gravitational attraction and ways to counter it." Right now there is considerable difference of opinion among those working to discover the secret of gravity and universal gravitation as to exactly how long the project will take. George S. Trimble, a brilliant young scientist who is head of the new advanced design division of Martin Aircraft in Baltimore and a member of the sub-committee on high-speed aerodynamics of the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics, believes that it could be done relatively quickly if sufficient resources and momentum were put behind the program. "I think we could do the job in about the time that it actually required to build the first atom bomb if enough trained scientific brainpower simultaneously began thinking about and working towards a solution," he said. "Actually, the biggest deterrent to scientific progress is a refusal of some people, including scientists, to believe that things which seem amazing can really happen... I know that if Washington decides that it is vital to our national survival to go where we want and do what we want without having to worry about gravity, we'd find the answer rapidly."


May be why the others are interested in our nuclear installations..





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Based on the recent announcement declaring a partnership with TTSA, we know even the U.S. Army is also exploring similar concepts for next-generation ground vehicles that exploit the same principles the USAF has explored for decades: mass manipulation, electromagnetic metamaterial waveguides, and quantum physics.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 6:11 pm to
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In an attempt to achieve breakthrough propulsion based on these concepts, NASA’s project identified three major barriers that stood in the way of their main goal of achieving interstellar travel:

(1) MASS: Discover new propulsion methods that eliminate or dramatically reduce the need for propellant. This implies discovering fundamentally new ways to create motion, presumably by manipulating inertia, gravity, or by any other interactions between matter, fields, and spacetime.

(2) SPEED: Discover how to attain the ultimate achievable transit speeds to dramatically reduce travel times. This implies discovering a means to move a vehicle at or near the actual maximum speed limit for motion through space or through the motion of spacetime itself (if possible, this means circumventing the light speed limit).

(3)ENERGY: Discover fundamentally new modes of on board energy generation to power these propulsion devices. This third goal is included since the first two breakthroughs could require breakthroughs in energy generation, and since the physics underlying the propulsion goals is closely linked to energy physics.


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In 1997, NASA’s Lewis Research Center, now known as the John H. Glenn Research Center at Lewis Field, held a conference on these breakthrough propulsion concepts, the proceedings of which are worth a read and contain titles such as “Inertial Mass as a Reaction of the Vacuum to Accelerated Motion”, “Force Field Propulsion”, and “The Zero-Point Field and the NASA Challenge to Create the Space Drive”. From what little we know or think we know about Salvatore Cezar Pais, the elusive inventor of the Navy’s intriguing if not puzzling anti-gravity ‘UFO’ patents that we’ve explored in our previous reporting, he was working on his PhD dissertation at Case Western Reserve University while serving as a NASA Graduate Student Research Fellow at NASA’s John H. Glenn Research Center at Lewis Field at the time of the conference. There’s no concrete evidence that Pais attended the workshop, but according to the document’s foreword, 12 students were in attendance. The table of contents for the conference proceedings lists a total of 449 pages, the last of which is a list of workshop participants. However, the versions available online stop at page 389. We are currently pursuing a Freedom of Information Act request to obtain the missing pages. Confirming Pais' presence at the conference would be significant because many of the exact same revolutionary concepts that NASA was exploring in terms of unlocking new forms of propulsion and space travel are the same types of concepts found throughout the patents for his "hybrid aerospace-underwater craft" and "high energy electromagnetic field generator." Many of the participants at NASA's workshop are also cited throughout Pais' patents and publications. Placing Pais at the conference would add to the body of evidence which suggests the technologies in the Navy's patents may have been in the works for the past 20 years, at least as far as the inventor is concerned. In reality though, as we've laid out here, many of the concepts in Pais' patents are similar to those which were researched at Wright-Patterson and other facilities in the 1950s and are still being explored today.


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There have been hints of those secret technologies for years offered by insiders of some of America's most high-level aerospace research and development outfits. For instance, Ben Rich, the second director of Lockheed Martin’s Skunk Works, told Popular Science in 1994 the following:

“We have some new things. We are not stagnating. What we are doing is updating ourselves, without advertising. There are some new programs, and there are certain things, some of them 20 or 30 years old, that are still breakthroughs and appropriate to keep quiet about [because] other people don’t have them yet.”

With this in mind, it is possible that there are certain technologies in existence that once were, but may no longer be the things of science fiction. Regardless, when it comes to harnessing exotic methods of overcoming gravity, the U.S. military’s interest in doing so has continued since the 1950s, and civilian laboratories have been hot on their heels. We're still pursuing answers to the enigma surrounding the recent Navy patents, but to say they have come out of the blue and have no scientific basis whatsoever seems to be not entirely accurate based on the decades of research we've presented here. The same principles and many of the same names cited in Salvatore Pais' patents filed for the US Navy between 2015 and 2018 appear throughout numerous NASA studies, the peer-reviewed publications of the scientific community, and the long history of U.S. government-funded research into general relativity and breakthrough propulsion science. We have to stress once again that this doesn't mean that actually realizing these concepts and putting them to use is possible at this time, or even ever in the future, for that matter. But it does show that there has been an incredibly long and detailed history of interest by the U.S. military and the scientific community in this exotic field that has resulted in significant amounts of research that spans nearly seven decades. All this occurred in spite of the fact that scientists realized as far back as the 1950s that the topic was largely taboo and often scoffed at by the larger scientific community.


Not so ironically the scoffing still goes on...
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 6:19 pm to
Thank you Thine and keep it coming buddy.
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 11/5/19 at 3:05 pm to
Good companion piece to yd’s video about the Tic Tacs being Air Force tech

Below delves into the material science that may have helped derive the “weightless” properties. These themes are in the TTSA/Army contract

Check out the origin of the materials. It invokes thoughts of ours vs theirs (and reverse engineering...)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l4NO_mIPwps

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Metamaterials, To The Stars, and the Army
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In October of 2019 the US Army announced a Cooperative Research and Development Agreement with To The Stars to research alleged metamaterials retrieved from crashed UFOs. This video goes over the history of the metamaterials and details the agreement between the Army and To The Stars.
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