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re: Unless you are prepared in advance spiritually, you will accept the Mark of the Beast
Posted on 11/14/21 at 5:27 pm to Revelator
Posted on 11/14/21 at 5:27 pm to Revelator
All these things that are happening are working toward what we are told WILL happen.
Globalists working toward the new Babylon. The phasing out of cash and the growing importance of digital currencies moving toward 'the mark of the beast'.
Globalists working toward the new Babylon. The phasing out of cash and the growing importance of digital currencies moving toward 'the mark of the beast'.
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 5:30 pm to Revelator
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Yes, what we are currently witnessing is unprecedented and not simply,” just another thing.”
Is the United States of America, with its jab mandates, currently acting as an agent of Satan?
Yes or No, please.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 5:32 pm to WonderWartHawg
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All these things that are happening are working toward what we are told WILL happen.
Globalists working toward the new Babylon. The phasing out of cash and the growing importance of digital currencies moving toward 'the mark of the beast'.
Is the United States of America currently acting as an agent of Satan by supporting a global governmental effort to implement all of the various mandates that you've listed?
Posted on 11/14/21 at 5:40 pm to Revelator
You may be right to a point. But those that think the vaccine is the mark are mistaken. The mark will be a visible mark on the forehead or hand. There will be no mistake and you will not be able to take it by accident.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 6:03 pm to Ponchy Tiger
I would like all of these "End Time is at Hand" folks who post here get right down to brass tacks and tell us their honest opinion WRT to the question of whether the United States of America is an active agent of Satan because the USA is in the process of becoming part of Satan's Plan to compel us to accept the Mark of the Beast.
Why can't we get them to discuss this particular question?
We want them to tell us whether our own country is doing this or going to do this. Until they can give us this information, IMHO, we should not take these particular predictions seriously.
If this stuff isn't happening until the USA no longer exists, then, none of us will be alive when it happens, because the USA is going to be around for another 100 years, at least.
I realize that the Bible discusses these events, but, it's in vague terms. When a person starts a thread and gives the impression that these events may be imminent, I think it is fair for me to ask a few questions to attempt to understand the particulars of why they want to insinuate that these events may be imminent.
IMHO, the Second Coming of Jesus Christ is not something that somebody should insinuate is imminent without explaining some particulars and details underlying their belief. The Second Coming may not be for another 1,000 years, for all we know.
Why can't we get them to discuss this particular question?
We want them to tell us whether our own country is doing this or going to do this. Until they can give us this information, IMHO, we should not take these particular predictions seriously.
If this stuff isn't happening until the USA no longer exists, then, none of us will be alive when it happens, because the USA is going to be around for another 100 years, at least.
I realize that the Bible discusses these events, but, it's in vague terms. When a person starts a thread and gives the impression that these events may be imminent, I think it is fair for me to ask a few questions to attempt to understand the particulars of why they want to insinuate that these events may be imminent.
IMHO, the Second Coming of Jesus Christ is not something that somebody should insinuate is imminent without explaining some particulars and details underlying their belief. The Second Coming may not be for another 1,000 years, for all we know.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:07 pm to Champagne
We've recently seen lots of these "End Time is Near" threads. I pose these questions of mine simply as my attempt to have these OPs provide some details and facts that serve as the basis for their suspicions that the End Time is Near.
And if they have no suspicion at all that the End Time is really near, then, these types of threads have no logical reason to be so prevalent lately, and, better Theological topics are out there to serve as the topic of a Bible thread.
If your Preacher is telling you that he suspects that the End Time is Near, ask him to provide some details and facts that form a logical basis for his suspicions. If he can't provide anything more concrete than quotes from the Bible, then, maybe he's just trying to scare you.
And if they have no suspicion at all that the End Time is really near, then, these types of threads have no logical reason to be so prevalent lately, and, better Theological topics are out there to serve as the topic of a Bible thread.
If your Preacher is telling you that he suspects that the End Time is Near, ask him to provide some details and facts that form a logical basis for his suspicions. If he can't provide anything more concrete than quotes from the Bible, then, maybe he's just trying to scare you.
This post was edited on 11/14/21 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:45 pm to Champagne
Personally I think Christians need to be more concerned about the plummeting percentage of people in their own communities/neighborhoods/schools who identify as Christians. Or that those who do often claim non-orthodox (arguably non-Christian) views. Orthodox (little o) Christians in the United States are going to be a novelty during your kids' lifetimes unless something changes.
I don't think discussions of the end times are crazy or purposeless, I just think they're wildly scattershot and rarely designed toward any particular end (more for kicks/debate than believer engagement).
I don't think discussions of the end times are crazy or purposeless, I just think they're wildly scattershot and rarely designed toward any particular end (more for kicks/debate than believer engagement).
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:15 pm to Champagne
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some details and facts that serve as the basis for their suspicions that the End Time is Near.
Take an honest look around. We live in a society that embraces killing of the unborn, pedophilia, men pretending to be women, women claiming to be men, but yet still want to give birth. They create statues for criminals and persecute the innocent. They want you to believe evil is good.
1 Timothy 4:1
1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
2 Timothy 3:1–9
1 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful,unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people. 6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7 always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:16 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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You may be right to a point. But those that think the vaccine is the mark are mistaken. The mark will be a visible mark on the forehead or hand. There will be no mistake and you will not be able to take it by accident.
I never implied the vaccine was the mark
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:19 pm to Pettifogger
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Personally I think Christians need to be more concerned about the plummeting percentage of people in their own communities/neighborhoods/schools who identify as Christians
The Bible said there would be a great falling away from the faith before the end. Jesus went so far as to say,” when I come back, will I find any faith!’
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:21 pm to Category5
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Take an honest look around. We live in a society that embraces killing of the unborn, pedophilia, men pretending to be women, women claiming to be men, but yet still want to give birth. They create statues for criminals and persecute the innocent. They want you to believe evil is good.
All of this is true
Of course, in times reminisced on this board we treated humans as chattel, etc. I don't say that to claim times are good (I think they're quite bad in the modern sense), or to condemn the past, but I'm not sure we can use our current predicament alone as evidence of the end times being near.
I do think widespread up is down culture is the best argument. Lies are not new, the world has seen lots of periods where dishonesty ruled. I think you could make the argument we haven't seen a time where so many people willingly spread and believed lies when the truth was readily available, though.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:25 pm to Pettifogger
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I do think widespread up is down culture is the best argument. Lies are not new, the world has seen lots of periods where dishonesty ruled. I think you could make the argument we haven't seen a time where so many people willingly spread and believed lies when the truth was readily available, though.
The things that make our times unique is the global connectivity aspect and the trend towards a cashless system that is universal.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:25 pm to Revelator
Despite knowing this and living it in its fullest, everyday still feels like a failure and that we are getting closer to the edge of the cliff. I am prepared physically and mentally, but standing on the precipice has become a struggle and practice of controlling stress hormones. Its borderline unbearable to have the full knowledge and watch it all happen. Before 2020, the message from higher powers was to sit back and try to enjoy it. But this is near impossible. Maybe in the quiet moments...
I wish God would grace me with the ability to relax a little...
I wish God would grace me with the ability to relax a little...
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:26 pm to Revelator
The Bible does say it will be a conscious decision. People will know what the Mark is and want it.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:28 pm to Pettifogger
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we haven't seen a time where so many people willingly spread and believed lies when the truth was readily available, though.
This is true. The further we move from God, the closer we get to the end.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:29 pm to charbar203
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Despite knowing this and living it in its fullest, everyday still feels like a failure and that we are getting closer to the edge of the cliff. I am prepared physically and mentally, but standing on the precipice has become a struggle and practice of controlling stress hormones. Its borderline unbearable to have the full knowledge and watch it all happen. Before 2020, the message from higher powers was to sit back and try to enjoy it. But this is near impossible. Maybe in the quiet moments... I wish God would grace me with the ability to relax a little...
I appreciate you sharing this!
Posted on 11/14/21 at 9:34 pm to Category5
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They want you to believe evil is good.
Who is "they"?
Who or what is perpetrating these evils?
SOMETHING is perpetrating evil. SOMETHING is doing so to such an extent that people are beginning to hear their Preachers talk more and more about The End is Near.
Can we be specific about who and what entity is doing this?
Posted on 11/14/21 at 9:35 pm to redneck hippie
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But yea, at some point in my early 20s I looked around and said, none of this makes any sense. Once that door was opened it became very clear to me.
If you don't recognize the End Time prophecies about the rebirth of Israel and her proliferation and growth into a military power, the exponential increase in knowledge, that man are going "to and fro", the wars and rumors of wars, the lawlessnes that abounds "as in the days of Noah", a move toward a global government, deadly diseases mentioned in the Bible as "pestilences", that men would be deceived and there would be false preachers, chaotic weather and earthquakes, weapons mentioned in Zechariah 14:12) that its victims' flesh "shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, and their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths." This was unimaginable in Zechariah's day. That's just a few, but there's plenty more if you care to investigate. Pick up your Bible and maybe read some books on Bible Prophecy.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 9:39 pm to Champagne
Why would you equate the USA to the evil people within the USA who are trying to make this come to fruition? Regardless, they have their role to play as does Satan himself. Good cannot overcome evil unless there is evil sufficient enough to bring out greatness.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 9:43 pm to Champagne
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Who is "they
Unbelievers, followers of Satan, haters of God, or evil people.
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SOMETHING is perpetrating evil.
Satan, the lawless one
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