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Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:24 am to Indefatigable
Gonna attrit the frick out of some stuff that's for sure.
Gonna erase some IGRC and leadership.
Gonna erase some IGRC and leadership.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:27 am to Indefatigable
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Gross
I'm not going to make an ardent defense of our history with regime change, but I think the Mullahs have worn out their welcome in the Arab world.
I don't think we'd be escalating this without the tacit approval of their neighbors.
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:28 am to Jbird
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The Arabs want us to deal with the Persians.
They simply can't have a nuke armed Iran holding the area hostage.
Right there, as simple as that.
Our allies in the middle east, Jordan, Saudi, UAE, Turkey, Egypt.
None of them want a Nuclear Armed Iran.
They all fully support Iran not getting there.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:29 am to Narax
quote:The will not be held hostage by the Persians.
None of them want a Nuclear Armed Iran.
They all fully support Iran not getting there.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:29 am to Indefatigable
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If we’re going all in on sustained bombing and missile operations, what is that supposed to accomplish without some sort of stabilizing force on the ground?
This is just me spit balling. But I think the operation will focus on taking out Iranian governmental hardliners and decimating the IRCG leadership. The rest of the military and other security forces will remain mostly untouched. I wouldn’t be surprised to see SOF raids(2-3 weeks down the road) to kill/capture leadership and nuclear scientists. And probably SF/CIA embeds with military and police across the country to have a hand ensuring security and stabilization without committing large numbers of our own ground forces.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:30 am to Wildcat1996
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think the Mullahs have worn out their welcome in the Arab world.
Then the Arabs should be useful for once. But they won’t and can’t because they’re inept generally and militarily, and they know it.
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I don't think we'd be escalating this without the tactic approval of their neighbors.
Regime change in Iran isn’t worth one single American life, or dollar.
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 11:31 am
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:32 am to BOHICAMAN
I think you will see multiple military assets bombed out of existence.
IGRC reduced to meaningless.
Air assets destroyed.
Leadership killed.
Opposition leaders supported.
Nuke facilities gone.
IGRC reduced to meaningless.
Air assets destroyed.
Leadership killed.
Opposition leaders supported.
Nuke facilities gone.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:32 am to cajunangelle
Good….thats what happens when you alienate your allies. Anyway I thought Trump said during his 2.0 campaign that there would be no new wars and the U.S. doesn’t have to be the policeman of the world.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:33 am to Jbird
Great, so we just decimate their entire political and social systems and head for home.
That shouldn’t result in unmitigated disaster on the ground as 90 million people across various ethnic and religious groups clamber around for power.
That shouldn’t result in unmitigated disaster on the ground as 90 million people across various ethnic and religious groups clamber around for power.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:34 am to Indefatigable
quote:Assuming they haven't got an interim group to assume leadership.
Great, so we just decimate their entire political and social systems and head for home.
That shouldn’t result in unmitigated disaster on the ground as 90 million people across various ethnic and religious groups clamber around for power.
I get it you aren't excited and I understand your point.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:34 am to cajunangelle
Starmer is making Carter look less of a hand wringing fool.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:34 am to Jbird
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I think you will see multiple military assets bombed out of existence. IGRC reduced to meaningless. Air assets destroyed. Leadership killed. Opposition leaders supported. Nuke facilities gone.
Yes, but we can’t kill the entire military or destroy everything have because someone has to be there to run the country when we’re finished. Unless we want to do Iraq 2.0 and the neither the American people nor President Trump have any desire to do that.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:36 am to BOHICAMAN
quote:Nope that's the rub, how much to kill and how much to persuade they want to live and cooperate.
Yes, but we can’t kill the entire military or destroy everything have because someone has to be there to run the country when we’re finished. Unless we want to do Iraq 2.0 and the neither the American people nor President Trump have any desire to do that.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:42 am to Jbird
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Nope that's the rub, how much to kill and how much to persuade they want to live and cooperate.
It will be very difficult to toe the line between eliminating leadership and leaving enough people in place to actually put the pieces together. I don’t know how that can be accomplished without huge numbers on the ground. If the Iranian’s themselves had that manpower assembled and unified in wanting liberal democracy, they’d have taken over by now.
Categorically eliminating the Ba’ath party set us back 15 years, 2500 lives, and a few trillion dollars.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:44 am to Indefatigable
quote:Maybe with IGRC removed from the equation, but it's a tough nut to crack regardless
If the Iranian’s themselves had that manpower assembled and unified in wanting liberal democracy, they’d have taken over by now.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:48 am to Jbird
The idea is to not let perfect be the enemy of good enough.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:48 am to cajunangelle
Hmmmmm.... the folks on Promithean Updates aren't conspiracy theorists, as some here have stated...
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:50 am to BOHICAMAN
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The idea is to not let perfect be the enemy of good enough.
If I were Trump I would pull the 100th out of Mildenhall permanently to Poland and the fighters out of Lakenheath to Hahn, tell them we no longer need to pay them for bases we can't use.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:52 am to Jbird
The real truth is we will use F22s F35s and B2s and it will be over before they realize it has begun. By that time everyone will be home and Iran will have no military left.
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