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re: UAP /paranormal primer: essential information for what is to come

Posted on 11/6/21 at 11:14 pm to
Posted by NashvilleTider
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Posted on 11/6/21 at 11:14 pm to
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GS-15 CIA Officer John Ramirez | Navigating the US Intelligence


This is fascinating - not saying I’m buying it but it was interesting
Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 12:28 am to
You are hitting the main points.

Here is the question you should be asking: Why after lying, and covering it up for 50 plus years would the government suddenly begin steps to disclosure when their entire bases for non disclosure has always been “we can’t handle the truth aka it’s destabilizing?

Have they changed that position? A: No
Do they want to share knowledge and power suddenly? A: Obviously no.

Are they concerned about some future event or series of events that makes this all moot? (probably the correct answer)

The event could be invasion, war, they make disclosure, etc. Whatever it is, a doubt it’s something good
Posted by NashvilleTider
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 12:36 am to
A part of me wants all this to be real - but if true it’s mind bending - like the guy in the matrix said - he likes the taste of stakes
Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 12:46 am to
All of me wishes i didn’t know any of it. part of you knows it’s true which is the problem .

“We aren’t alone, we have never been alone”

Think about this, we have been in this form for 60-80k years. We have a known history of about 5-8k years, less than 10% of that time. So we assume all the orher time we were just hunter gathering tribes and made no advancement at all until suddenly we learned to grow crops etc etc for no particular reason.

They never made sense to me because it doesn’t make sense and is directly contradicted by the recorded history of almost every ancient civilization known so far.
Posted by NashvilleTider
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 12:50 am to
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part of you knows it’s true which is the problem .


Posted by RiverCityTider
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 12:04 am to
Never seen a UFO. Never.

I suggest that the powers that be might have found a use for the "disclosure" of this phenomena. I'm certain world government will be the solution for the "alien problem" just like "global cooperation" is called for in our life and death struggle with "climate change".

Posted by RiverCityTider
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 12:04 am to
Never seen a UFO. Never.

I suggest that the powers that be might have found a use for the "disclosure" of this phenomena. I'm certain world government will be the solution for the "alien problem" just like "global cooperation" is called for in our life and death struggle with "climate change".

Posted by TurkeyBaconLeg
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 6:28 am to
I find this subject fascinating because I can see some scenarios where religion (the existence of GOD/Supreme Being), human history, science fiction, technology, science, physics, time/space could all be explained and tied-in together.

But, no matter what we find out or what is revealed to us, everyone here still has to find a way to live our daily lives. We all still have to get up in the morning and figure out how we are going to eat, sleep and have a place to live.



Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 7:14 am to
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Think about this, we have been in this form for 60-80k years. We have a known history of about 5-8k years, less than 10% of that time. So we assume all the orher time we were just hunter gathering tribes and made no advancement at all until suddenly we learned to grow crops etc etc for no particular reason. They never made sense to me because it doesn’t make sense and is directly contradicted by the recorded history of almost every ancient civilization known so far.


Worth a watch:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zw-w30pOkzY

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Who Would SURVIVE the Collapse of Civilization? - Graham Hancock After Skool203,975 viewsOct 26, 2021

Graham Hancock is a British author and former journalist. He is known for his controversial views on the possibility of a lost advanced civilization of the Ice Age, and his investigations of cataclysmic Earth changes, megalithic architecture, altered states of consciousness, ancient myths, and astronomical data from the past. He is the author of many extraordinary, best-selling books, such as "America Before", "Magicians of the Gods", "The Sign and the Seal", "Fingerprints of the Gods", "Heaven's Mirror", "Underworld", and "Supernatural".


I am still working through the last large video I posted. I am told they get into non-local conciousness. I will post later about this (unifies the supernatural).

All of my “weird” threads are starting to make a blanket…
Posted by Enadious
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 8:26 am to
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This would suggest a collective amnesia of our own history, which could perhaps shroud a truth that humans may be extra-terrestrial hybrids.


Kinda smells like Scientology's cousin.
We are not extra-terrestrial hybrids. We are 46 chromosome apes. The evolutionary branch of apes would have to be 'extra-terrestrial for us to be hybrids.

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one of the human chromosomes is essentially the same as two chimpanzee chromosomes. Chimps and humans started out with exactly the same chromosomes. Then, about 5 million years ago, the two started to drift apart in evolution. In that time their genomes changed.


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Humans have 46 chromosomes, whereas chimpanzee, gorilla, and orangutan have 48. This major karyotypic difference was caused by the fusion of two ancestral chromosomes to form human chromosome 2 and subsequent inactivation of one of the two original centromeres (Yunis and Prakash 1982).
Posted by LookSquirrel
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 9:28 am to
I found this guy's attempt to summarize what was intended in this presentation interesting. It is from Reddit and it's pretty long but, I am curious how others here view it. I don't have TPA skills to share this and I can't link it. So, here is the whole thing and if it does not advance, or worse spoil this thread, PLEASE, just ponder it for shits and giggles.

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APEX

He is being deliberately cryptic here and he sort of passed on a message for the avid listener.


But he ain’t giving it “straight” to us. He can’t. So instead he is using a hypothetical myth to communicate something to us.

Then, he goes on to speak about how the intelligence community in the US is a complex apparatus which has only become more complex due to when, how and why these agencies were established. And then, he gave us a basic overview of the structures within the intelligence apparatus. Who does what, and who is in charge of exactly what, and how they are known within their own community.

Now, here the presentation gets very interesting. But you really need to put it together yourself. He starts to point out symbolism from different badges used in different types of projects, involving missiles, including badges from black projects and things like that. The symbolism in these badges, may be hinting at the fact that, there may be a presence which we need to break away from. A presence that keeps a watchful eye on our civilization.

Essentially, he kept on doing this. Over and over. Looking at a badge and interpreting the symbolism on it. As though hinting at the fact, that we shouldn’t take his word at face value. Instead we should scratch the surface and look at what lies beneath. He basically presented a riddle disguised as myth. We need to interpret the symbolism of this riddle, which is presented in the form of a myth involving “the Reptilians and the Atlantians.”
entities. But they are not truly Reptilians nor Atlantians.

Basically, the myth is a tale of (3) civilizations:

Civilization “A” the Reptilians, are the true “Unknown” here, they are also the true apex species of planet Earth. They are extremely ancient and also they are extremely technologically advanced. Even capable of dabbling in complex genetic manipulation via gene splicing, they are the civilization makers. A long time ago, the apex manipulated Earth’s environment to spawn the creation of Civilization “B” the Atlantians.

Now, Civilization “B” was too clever for its own good and too much in the image of Civilization “A.” Then, when they developed extremely advanced technology. Perhaps this allowed them to travel off-world. Or maybe they even developed more destructive weapons of mass destruction compared to ours, who knows. The important thing is that Civilization “A” got angry at them and caused a cataclysm. Mostly wiping them out, and thus Civilization “B” became “fallen angels.” Who fell from the grace of their maker.

Some survived and were used by Civilization “A” to reset the gene ?? pool. And out of these remnants, Civilization “A” created Civilization “C” which would be us, Human Beings. Now, Humans are also made in the image of Civilization “A” but they are more docile and develop technology at a much slower pace for we are not as smart as Civilization “B.” This is intentional on the part of Civilization “A.” Perhaps part of the mistake made with Civilization “B,” the Atlantians, was that they had too much power available to them.

Notice that although we share common ancestry with other species of apes. We don’t look very much like apes do. The vast majority of life on Earth may simply be a repertory of genes. Which are kept handy by the apex Civilization to handle. All life on planet Earth is like a library. A gene-pool from which information is stored and/or is extracted from, and tweaked, as the apex see fit. This information lies within the fabric of our make-up, in the form of genes ??. The apex species overseeing this, Civilization “A,” has all the tools at its disposal to birth complex life on this planet. For they are the Civilization makers.

The apex Civilization “A” in order to prevent the mistakes made with Civilization “B.” Tweaked our genes, and purposely made humans less smart. It also placed certain bloodlines within the population to assert control and better manage Human development into civilization. Along the way, we progress making mistakes as we go. Which helps us learn from them (Hopefully). For we, humans, are deeply flawed. Perhaps the origins of our flaws could be traced back to our genetic make-up. Deliberately caused by Civilization “A” to keep Humans in check.

Nowadays, Humans are currently at a threshold for we are beginning to expand our collective horizons. Via the commercialization of space travel. Civilization “A” may have issues with this fact, or maybe it doesn’t. But if it does, maybe it will require resetting the table, once again via a cataclysm. However, there may be some kind of twist to all this, here. It may just be the case that some elements from Civilization “B” were able to escape the first cataclysm which destroyed Atlantis. And they may have travelled to our time, hiding in the shadows, beneath our oceans, waiting to see what happens. And they may be able to help Humans break away from the grasp of Civilization “A.” For humanity to become fully independent.

Something like that. I might be wrong about some of the last details. Now, I think that he is simply pointing us in a specific direction, but he is saying don’t take it literally or you will get lost. Instead, look at the symbolism and interpret it.

Now, I don’t think that there are “Reptilians.” It’s all symbolism. In nature Reptiles are cold and calculated. They are also quite adept at hiding in plain sight by using mimicry camouflage tactics. They also have powerful weapons such as venom. And a strong brute force. Again focus on the symbolism. Reptiles are patient predators and sometimes they wait for their prey to come willingly to them. Maybe the Apex Civilization Makers have qualities which are easy to explain using the “Reptilian” archetype as symbolism.

The “Atlantians” on the other hand, represent aquatic beings. Maybe they were exiled into our oceans. Where they have been living all this time. In mythology, Atlantians were known for pursuing technology and power. But they have always been strongly connected to water. And that this pursuit for knowledge and power became excessive and it became the source of their own demise. Perhaps, they have continued developing their own technology trying to outsmart their maker. Somehow buying time. But maybe the makers underestimate them. Maybe Civilization “B” can be explained better by using this symbolism. What I see here is an obvious direction, pointing to water.

I don’t know. This all sounds very much like some lovely sci-fi. I can’t deny that it pulled me right in and that it’s very interesting and fascinating.

So, if this symbolism is correct. Then, we may be between two factions that are at odds with each other. And we are literally caught in the middle. And it is up to us to figure our collective way out of this pickle, and ultimately find our freedom.
This post was edited on 11/7/21 at 9:31 am
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 9:31 am to
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non-local conciousness. I will post later about this (unifies the supernatural).


https://www.mysterywire.com/mysteries/las-vegas-billionaire-pays-1-8m-in-prize-money-for-winning-essays-on-life-after-death/

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Las Vegas billionaire pays $1.8M in prize money for winning essays on life after death


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MYSTERY WIRE (KLAS) — An international competition to find the best evidence for life after death has announced its winners. The Bigelow Institute for Consciousness Studies will award nearly $2 million to its prize winners, including $500,000 for the best essay about life after death.


Mr Bigelow has many interest that align with this thread…

The winner:

https://www.nonlocalmind.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Jeff-Mishlove-Essay-for-Bigelow-Institute.pdf

quote:

Beyond the Brain
The Survival of Human Consciousness After Permanent Bodily Death

Jeffrey Mishlove


Try to figure things out in this “lifetime”, otherwise you may need to repeat a grade/lesson

The first lesson is we know very little because we can perceive very little. Our limited perceptions directly influence the things we are perceiving.

Science/secular knowing is limited by this
Bastardized “scientism” further pollutes /manipulates this leaving individuals to “believe” that they are random meat machines with no purpose or hope (our current modern religion broadcasted /monitored 24/7)

The death blow is not far…
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 10:40 am to
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Beyond the Brain
The Survival of Human Consciousness After Permanent Bodily Death

Jeffrey Mishlove


Yes, near death experiences are undoubtedly the best evidence pointing to survival of human consciousness. I had a relative whom I absolutely trust that experienced and described to me a substantial NDE from an injury sustained in an accident. Clearly they are universal experiences with reports throughout history and significant numbers occurring in modern times. They may not be absolute proof but they strongly suggest survival of consciousness after death very well may be the answer to the survival question. The basic themes running through so many NDEs also suggest answers to other fundamental mysteries of existence...such as meaning of life.
This post was edited on 11/7/21 at 10:44 am
Posted by TigerAxeOK
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 11:17 am to
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All of my “weird” threads are starting to make a blanket…

You have invoked (and it's being validated) Chaos Theory.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 11:43 pm to
If you want to see some weird shite watch the documentary Secrets of skinwalker ranch. Significant amount of scientific proof something is going on here, what they aren’t sure. Bigelow bought it and had a contract with US Government to study it for pentagon for about a decade. Best guess is some kind of portal.

Now, you need to understand this as well, I know for a fact, that large sections of the midwest are full of thousands of miles of underground tunnels, etc. It is my understanding that a lot of these were built in the 40s and 50s as war shelters, for underground nuclear test etc, secret weapons test but that they built into an preexisting tunnel system whose origin is unknown.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 1:33 pm to
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nrA6VwcuUqw

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GS-15 CIA Officer John Ramirez | Missing Segment from our Q&A
4.8K views · 5 days ago 377 6 Share Save Report
Project Unity 13.5K subscribers


Just got through it all and additional clip above
We are squarely in David Icke Reptilian territory…

Speculated on this in the past:

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https://futurism.com/the-byte/atlantic-dinosaurs-civilization

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THE ATLANTIC: IT’S POSSIBLE DINOSAURS HAD A WHOLE CIVILIZATION

AUGUST 14TH 19__DAN ROBITZSKI__FILED UNDER: EARTH & ENERGY


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It’s technically possible that dinosaurs, in all of their gigantic glory, developed an advanced technological civilization that we’ll never know about. The idea, a thought experiment crafted by The Atlantic writer Peter Brannen, is meant to illustrate how all of the damage done to the world by humanity happened in the blink of an eye in terms of geological timescales — meaning that an archaeologist in the future might not even know that we were ever here. King Koopa Brannen isn’t saying that dinosaurs definitely had a high-tech civilization like in that 1993 so-bad-it’s-funny live-action “Super Mario Bros.” film. But if they somehow did, we’d have no way of knowing. Brannen writes:

If, in the final 7,000 years of their reign, dinosaurs became hyperintelligent, built a civilization, started asteroid mining, and did so for centuries before forgetting to carry the one on an orbital calculation, thereby sending that famous valedictory six-mile space rock hurtling senselessly toward the Earth themselves — it would be virtually impossible to tell. All we do know is that an asteroid did hit, and that the fossils in the millions of years afterward look very different than in the millions of years prior.

Even if these hypothetical technosaurs obliterated each other with nuclear bombs, there wouldn’t be any evidence of the explosions for modern day scientists to study. The longest-lasting radioactive isotope from a nuclear blast has a half-life of about 16 million years, according to The Atlantic — meaning that by now, any evidence of Triassic nukes would have long since dissipated, and there’s a good chance that the evidence of our civilization will do the same.







Y’all want some fringe...

we have speculated that:

-ancient history is incomplete
-a recent cataclysm destroyed much of the megafauna and civilizations that inhabited North America (but not all human life was destroyed (both advanced and simple cultures))
-the current “alien” phenomena is likely (at least in part) due to an advanced subterranean race that co-evolved with us

With these things in mind (and article above), I give you “Reptilians”...


https://downthechupacabrahole.com/2019/08/01/do-reptilian-humanoids-exist/

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Do Reptilian Humanoids Exist? August 1, 2019


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Reptilian beings have been depicted throughout history and are chronicled by cultures around the world. Seven thousand-year-old human-serpent statues were uncovered in Mesopotamia. Ancient Sumerians spoke of the Anunnaki, an extraterrestrial race said to have influenced mankind. Asian mythology described dragon emperors who ruled the land. Indigenous South Americans worshipped Quetzalcoatl, a snake-god. In modern times, supposed alien abductees have repeatedly witnessed lizard-like humanoids. Conspiracy theorists claim the world is run by an elite group of shapeshifting reptiles. While many scoff at the idea of aforementioned entities, some researchers argue that had dinosaurs survived they would have evolved into these very creatures.

Dale Russell is an American-Canadian geologist, college professor and paleontologist. He first proposed the “dinosauroid” theory in 1982 after an extensive decades-long investigation of the Troodon. These prehistoric animals had large eyes with binocular-like vision and abnormally large brains. Their IQs measured six times higher than other dinosaurs. Troodontids possessed semi-manipulative fingers and could grasp objects with their hands. Russell’s extensive studies suggested they were progressing into highly intelligent lifeforms. In fact, the enigmatic species would have shared an eerily close resemblance to modern humans. Artist Ron Seguin created a life-sized sculptural rendition under Russell’s guidance and the result is quite unsettling.






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Betsey Lewis, author of Ancient Serpent Gods: The Alien Connection to Reptilian Dinosaurs, theorized that not all sentient dinosaurs were obliterated in the K-T mass extinction. She speculated some retreated underground and lived in subterranean lands deep beneath the Earth. This interpretation coincides with the 1999 transcription “Lacerta Files” which stated opposable thumbed Iguanodons survived annihilation. Eventually, the bipedal brutes evolved into Saurians, a supposed type of reptoid which dwell underground. Saurians appear in Egyptian and Mayan inscriptions as well as religious writings including the Hebrew Bible, Vedas and Quran.


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During the nineteenth century, Carlos Ribeiro uncovered twenty-million-year-old hand-worked flint tools in Portugal. Paleoanthropologists estimate our earliest primordial ancestors first surfaced only five million years ago. Therefore, the archaic instruments had been crafted by evolving reptiles. Belgium’s Museum of Natural Sciences is said to house thirty-million year old relics which are securely locked away from public viewers. Thousands of artifacts dating back to the Eocene period became unearthed in Californian rock mines. Neither monkeys nor apes existed half a billion years ago. Some believe the evidence is concealed as it does not coincide with scientists’ current version of history.


For the poster who speculated about pre-existing tunnel system out west…


Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 1:38 pm to
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Yes, near death experiences are undoubtedly the best evidence pointing to survival of human consciousness. I had a relative whom I absolutely trust that experienced and described to me a substantial NDE from an injury sustained in an accident. Clearly they are universal experiences with reports throughout history and significant numbers occurring in modern times. They may not be absolute proof but they strongly suggest survival of consciousness after death very well may be the answer to the survival question. The basic themes running through so many NDEs also suggest answers to other fundamental mysteries of existence...such as meaning of life


Look up reincarnation in kids. Some wild stuff that a U of Virginia professor has been studying for a few decades
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 1:45 pm to
I’ve been on this kick lately from a few guys claiming that cataclysms happen every 12,000 years, and there is evidence of it. Part of the reason we went to the moon…to solidify the evidence. The claim is that stars have mini novas in a cyclical fashion. That’s where the evidence is. A magnetic pole reversal or large shift happens at around the same time, also cyclical. Apparently people know about this and are keeping it from the public, obviously. It’s supposed to happen again in our lifetime. That’s the reason for the push for DUMB’s. Not aliens.

You can start here:
https://youtu.be/B_zfMyzXqfI

Watched a ton at one of the guys who brought this theory to the public this past weekend. Can’t remember the name at the moment. It’s in this video. Last name is like 4 letters
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 1:50 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 1:48 pm to
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I’ve been on this kick lately from a few guys claiming that cataclysms happen every 12,000 years, and there is evidence of it. Part of the reason we went to the moon…to solidify the evidence. The claim is that stars have mini novas in a cyclical fashion. That’s where the evidence is. A magnetic pole reversal or large shift happens at around the same time, also cyclical. Apparently people know about this and are keeping it from the public, obviously. It’s supposed to happen again in our lifetime. That’s the reason for the push for DUMB’s. Not aliens.


I have similar concerns…
Posted about it prior (Adam and Eve document). Will try to find the post
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 1:50 pm to
Yea, look at that video. The Adam and Eve document is in there. There are fission marks on stone, bones, etc only something from the sun can do on earth, the moon, and probably mars. The dust cloud evidence is there as well. Also from soil samples. It’s looks irrefutable to me. Multiple cultures that survived confirm it as well. Several scientists have made some comments about this, but overall the cia is steering the entire scientific community away. They control the scientific foundation
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 2:01 pm
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