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re: Twitter is pursuing legal action to enforce Elon’s merger agreement. LOL

Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:39 pm to
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:39 pm to
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He made an offer to buy something contingent on due diligence findings.


He did not…this is in the proxy and is plainly obvious from a quick confirmatory reading of the contract.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:40 pm to
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I’m sure the banks did their due diligence that he had not pledged that Tesla stock elsewhere, but I’m curious to know just how much Tesla Stock he’s pledged.


While, as cwill points out, he waived due diligence, we all know the banks wouldn’t agree to lend without some assurances.

I really think this whole thing comes down to what they told him (and the banks) in negotiations. I could be wrong, but if I am that means not only Musks attorneys, but the banks attorneys committed malpractice.

I have no clue who fricked up here. Musk and the bank and their attorneys or Twitter and their attorneys. But someone fricked up…allegedly.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:41 pm to
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Considering how toothless and not proactive the SEC is, Twitter probably isn’t worried.


A point well made.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:41 pm to
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I know you have read the contract. Was getting financing part of it?


The deal was not contingent on financing, but Twitter was obligated to assist with financing. I think financing was secure and was mostly being covered by a bank loan with musks Tesla atock as collateral.
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:42 pm to
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They don’t have to validate that info. He signed a no exit, no due dil deal.


Since you are privy to the actual contract; please post a screen shot of it. It will help resolve some of the arguments in this thread. Thank you.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:43 pm to
I’m on my phone…just google it, it’s public as is the proxy statement.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:43 pm to
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Twitter was obligated to assist with financing.


In what way?
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:45 pm to
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In what way?


Financial data.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:45 pm to
He waived due diligence via a vis twitter, but he went and secured outside financing from the too big to fail guys who would have done their due diligence on his collateral.

Looks like he scrapped the Tesla stock pledge. Lots of good info here: LINK
This post was edited on 7/8/22 at 11:48 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:45 pm to
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Since you are privy to the actual contract; please post a screen shot of it. It will help resolve some of the arguments in this thread. Thank you.


Dude. Im team Musk and trying to drill down on details, but the contract has been made public. I don’t know if cwill is an attorney, but I suspect he is, because his reading of the contract is pretty strong.
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:45 pm to
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Why risk it unless you know you’re legit?


Cause they think they are F’d; and hoping for the right judge?
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:46 pm to
Anyone seeing gifman? God forbid! Did he run away???
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59471 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:48 pm to
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He waived due diligence via a vis twitter, but he went and secured outside financing from the too big to fail guys.

I understand he waived due diligence. That doesn’t mean Twitter isn’t obligated to the bank for whatever they wanted to see. It also doesn’t waive what they represented in negotiations

It’s like when I sign a waiver to go on some bunjee shite at the fair. You can’t waive their negligence. That’s a crude example, but the point remains. Waiving due diligence does some things but it does not waive everything. You know this.
This post was edited on 7/8/22 at 11:50 pm
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:48 pm to
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Cause they think they are F’d; and hoping for the right judge?


You’re making a lot of claims in this thread with zero evidence.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:48 pm to
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Financial data.


Does this include projected revenues from users?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:50 pm to
I edited to clarify. The banks did their DD on Musk’s pledge of Tesla stock. He subsequently backed away from that so it’s moot, but I think that also gives a hint into some of his reservation of tying his bread and butter in with whatever this Twitter foray is for him.
This post was edited on 7/8/22 at 11:51 pm
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:50 pm to
With financing it’s going to probably be 12 to 24 mos trailing and a pro forma but not much more…he’s pledging his rmtesla shares…that’s the collateral that matters to the bank.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:52 pm to
ArticleI posted from June said he scrapped Tesla shares and instead gave equity in Twitter to the banks
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:56 pm to
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With financing it’s going to probably be 12 to 24 mos trailing and a pro forma but not much more…he’s pledging his rmtesla shares…that’s the collateral that matters to the bank.


Understood. But you said that Twitter was obligated for certain things to the bank. What were those things? If I misunderstood I apologize.

This Twitter deal is clearly much larger than anything I have ever worked on. But even in a 200MM dollar deal, usually a bank doesn’t allow a single stock to be the collateral for a loan. I know Musk is likely different, but it seems strange to me both Musks attorneys and the banks attorneys would abandon industry norms.
This post was edited on 7/8/22 at 11:58 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/8/22 at 11:57 pm to
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ArticleI posted from June said he scrapped Tesla shares and instead gave equity in Twitter to the banks


Interesting. Could be brilliant. Almost like a non recourse loan (yes I k ow why it’s not the exact same)? Where the asset is the collateral?
This post was edited on 7/9/22 at 12:00 am
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