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Posted on 4/15/23 at 10:52 am to billjamin
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You good with red flag laws?
No
You good with banning accessories because they’re scary?
Lets see, which is worse for Americans banning something that few gun owners use on a regular basis vs. a law that allows the Fla govt to flag ANYONE they deem a threat, and then legally confiscate their guns?
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Bump stocks are gun stocks with a mechanism for rapid firing of a semi-automatic firearm
Because DeSoros is quite pleased with the 2018 red flag laws Fla passed, and did nothing to repeal them in 4 years
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Florida's red-flag law has been employed nearly 6,000 times since 2018
DeSoros took office in Jan 2019
Posted on 4/15/23 at 10:57 am to jbdawgs03
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So you’ll be voting 3rd party I guess?
Yep.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:00 am to RobbBobb
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Lets see, which is worse for Americans banning something that few gun owners use on a regular basis vs. a law that allows the Fla govt to flag ANYONE they deem a threat, and then legally confiscate their guns?
Neither one of those are positives, but only one of them was active in putting the restriction in place. Your dude also wanted more. A lot more.
Do you need the Florida legislative process explained to you?
Keep trying to spin this shite for Trump, but he's been fricking terrible on the Second Amendment.
Meanwhile, what's DeSantis actually done for those rights in Florida? Any thoughts on that, RobbBro?
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:04 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:12 am to jbdawgs03
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Although the Obama administration repeatedly concluded that particular bump stock type devices were lawful to purchase and possess, I sought further clarification of the law restricting fully automatic machine guns.
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I like taking guns away early. Take the guns first, go through due process second.
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We have tremendous support for really common-sense, sensible, important background checks.
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What are we going to do about assault rifles?
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Well, it’s the military weapons.
...and that's just a few gems that came after Trump started pretending he was a Republican and Second Amendment supporter.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:14 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Meanwhile, what's DeSantis actually done for those rights in Florida? Any thoughts on that, RobbBro?
I love how you walk right into it EVERY, SINGLE TIME
WESH: Florida's red-flag law has been employed nearly 6,000 times since 2018
Ole Ron took office in Jan 2019
Action News Jax: Florida’s red flag law used nearly 9,000 times to date, 254 times in Duval
Florida Politics
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The state has used the Risk Protection Order nearly 6,000 times. The law saves lives. And a bipartisan coalition of 20 U.S. Senators reached the framework on a gun safety package, and it includes elements of Florida’s red flag law.
CNN: Florida’s red flag law, championed by Republicans, is taking guns from thousands of people
WFTV: Since the law was passed in 2018, it has been used almost 9,000 times for temporary risk protection orders and almost 6,000 times for final risk protection orders.
Spectator World: Basic red flag laws are judicially sound, and have, for example, been used in Florida nearly 6,000 times since 2018 and survived a state Supreme Court challenge there
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:16 am to RobbBobb
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since 2018
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Ron took office in Jan 2019
Weird.
Are you saying this law predates DeSantis as governor?
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:23 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Are you saying this law predates DeSantis as governor?
I'm saying . . . .
* He hasnt repealed it
* His admin successfully defended in to the Supreme Court
* It has been used over 9,000 times under his watch
* 6,000 people have lost their right to bear arms in Fla, with his help and blessing
* And when a DIM is guv of Fla, they will target conservatives with it
but, muh bump stocks, right?
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:27 am to RobbBobb
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He hasnt repealed it
Just say that you're completely ignorant how that happens. You've demonstrated as much repeatedly. It's time for you to stop making this point. It makes you look like an idiot.
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And when a DIM is guv of Fla, they will target conservatives with it
I love that you make this point, while completely ignoring Trump enabling Biden with his stupidity.
Imagine thinking it was "just bump stocks."
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:39 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Just say that you're completely ignorant how that happens.
Now tell me one more time how its Trumps fault that Obamacare didnt get repealed, or the wall didnt get built, or that he couldnt get true conservatives through the nomination process, or how his agenda wasnt sidetracked by an impeachment process
EVERY. SINGLE. TIME
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:41 am to RobbBobb
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Now tell me one more time how its Trumps fault that Obamacare didnt get repealed, or the wall didnt get built, or that he couldnt get true conservatives through the nomination process, or how his agenda wasnt sidetracked by an impeachment process
This only works if those are points that I've made.
I'm glad that you're at least learning something here.
I tried to tell you that I'd bust your arse on this topic, RobbBro. You should've listened.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 11:42 am to RobbBobb
You’re knighting pretty hard for a guy who eroded your 2A rights. Weird.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:01 pm to jbdawgs03
NRA will take anyone's money to be a life member. Most organization's would.
When did Trump become a member much less a Life Member?
Plus the NRA never addressed their and Trump's acceptance of the bump stock ban.
I say this an NRA Life Member, who no longer donates to them (thanks to LaPierre and the bumpstock fiasco).
Also a GOA Life Member and donater to FPC and SAF.
When did Trump become a member much less a Life Member?
Plus the NRA never addressed their and Trump's acceptance of the bump stock ban.
I say this an NRA Life Member, who no longer donates to them (thanks to LaPierre and the bumpstock fiasco).
Also a GOA Life Member and donater to FPC and SAF.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:10 pm to jbdawgs03
Nra sucks and do a terrible job protecting the 2nd amendment
Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:16 pm to Schleynole
What organization is better ?
Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:21 pm to billjamin
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You’re knighting pretty hard for a guy who eroded your 2A rights. Weird.
I've never owned a bump stock
But when I read that the state of Fla has used red flag laws to permanently remove guns from over 6,000 residents, I see far more of a threat in DeSantis to my 2A rights
Posted on 4/15/23 at 2:05 pm to RobbBobb
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But when I read that the state of Fla has used red flag laws to permanently remove guns from over 6,000 residents, I see far more of a threat in DeSantis to my 2A rights
This is only because you're an idiot with an agenda.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 2:10 pm to jbdawgs03
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What organization is better ?
SAF, FPC, GOA, etc.
The best thing NRA does is keep attention off of better organizations who are actually fighting for the Second Amendment.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 2:14 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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This is only because you're an idiot with an agenda.
I don't want to read the whole thread, but in short - is he pretending to be twisted about Florida Red Flag legislation that was signed into law by Governor Crist, who is Trump's new model Florida governor?
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