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re: Turkey With A Massive Roundup Of Purported Israeli Spies
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:25 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:25 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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I know some Turkish people here who said they would jail you there just for asking questions.
Turkey has a pretty liberal constitution, but you can be jailed for criticizing the government.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:26 pm to Ribbed
Of course there are spies in Turkey. But were they being rounded up for spying on Turkish government? NO.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:27 pm to themunch
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Of course there are spies in Turkey. But were they being rounded up for spying on Turkish government? NO
So it's still terrorism.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:27 pm to LuckyTiger
You just know that the Israelis are paying top bounty for the addresses of Hamas leaders. Would not want to be in that group. 
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:31 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
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Israel MAY HAVE BEEN the aggressor
Biden’s decision to ignore the sanctions against Iran, along with providing billions to Iran is the root cause of this war. It directly led to the funding into the proxy armies.
What we are witnessing is the cleaving of the world’s economies. The Petroleum based economies… and the Greens. The Petro will abandon the US Dollar as the world’s Reserve Currency. Of course there will be war … naturally.
Despite being a NATO country, Turkey will align with the Petros.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:37 pm to themunch
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Wut?
If England was in the U.S. killing Italians or hunting Italians, it would be terrorism, no?
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:39 pm to RCDfan1950
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You just know that the Israelis are paying top bounty for the addresses of Hamas leaders
Israel will never quit looking. If you want a price on your head put Hamas next to your name. Just ask Fritz in Argentina.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:49 pm to Ribbed
NO that is not terrorism. Maybe criminal in your eyes but not terrorism.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:50 pm to Bwmdx
But then there would be no representatives to vote on legislation 
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:51 pm to ksayetiger
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Makes Israel look like the aggressor
The article mentions the attacks on Israel in October and how the Israeli attacks have been in response. It also refers to Hamas as a militant organization and puts Erdogan’s defense of it in quotes so as not to portray the article’s defense of it.
Nevertheless, I tried to add some depth by also providing quotes and a link to an Israeli source in the op to provide additional cover.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:52 pm to themunch
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NO that is not terrorism.
Political murders of my allies in my country are definitely terrorism.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:55 pm to goatmilker
That makes sense to me, I assume the Turks had been onto them for a long time, hence the large number of people arrested. They weren't going to let a foreign country kill someone on their soil, which triggered the arrests. Otherwise they’d just to continue to surveil them
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:00 pm to themunch
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Maybe criminal in your eyes
No maybe about it.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:05 pm to goatmilker
I just think the word terrorism is used much too much out of the original intended word. Of course if they go in there and kill some people it is criminal. They put in the article the use of terrorism for the response of detaining.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:08 pm to Ribbed
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Political detaining and jailing of my allies in my country are definitely terrorism
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:09 pm to themunch
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I just think the word terrorism is used much too much out of the original intended word.
Assuming Turkey's accusations are legit and the speculation that they were hunting Hamas is correct, it's terrorism in the old fashioned sense. Just one we have historically turned a blind eye to.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:10 pm to themunch
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Political detaining and jailing of my allies in my country are definitely terrorism
Squirrel!
Not terrorism, also.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:12 pm to Ribbed
the government wants me to be terrorized to go protest. Kindly have a nice day.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 4:13 pm
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