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re: Turkey to send ground troops to fight ISIS.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:35 pm to FT
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:35 pm to FT
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Hasn't there been enough general interbreeding between the two groups to leave them largely indistinguishable from the other genetically?
There have been Kurds as separate people in the area since before recorded history. Their relatively isolationist nature and mountainous homeland have enabled them to keep a relatively isolated gene pool. They do have connections with other Iranian speakers in the area, Azeris, Armenians, Georgians (by some), as well as Semitic people of the region.
But, they retain as independent an identity and gene pool of any of the area. Similar to the Albanians of Europe - surrounded by Romantic, Slavic and Greek people - their relatively isolationist nature has kept even their language relatively separate from the rest of Europe.
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:35 pm to Ace Midnight
Neat. Thanks for posting.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:53 pm to FT
Be careful about having too much glee about Turkey and their ground troops. I think they are about as interested in killing ISIS troops as Pakistan is/has been in regards to the Taliban. There are similarities - both the Pakistan intelligence agency, ISI, and the Turkish intelligence agency, MIT, have been hands off on the "enemy". Turkey has been supporting ISIS because it wants to see Assad fall.
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Also, most of the blackmarket oil being sold by ISIS goes thru Turkey and they've done little to stop it. Almost all of the foreign jihadist have joined ISIS by crossing the Turkish border. Turkey is a mixed bag.
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European governments and the US have for the last 18 months been urging Turkey, which is a Nato member, to do more to stop jihadists who cross into Syria. Officials in Ankara had at first insisted that there was little that they could do to distinguish between religious pilgrims travelling to Turkey and those who intended to join a jihad.
Intelligence officials insisted that countries concerned that their citizens might be extremists should sound the alarm before they travel. However, European governments have been increasingly frustrated by what they perceive as Turkey's lack of will to confront the jihadists, given that they were destabilising the Assad regime.
Some agencies believe the Turkish National Police are more willing to interdict Isis than the country's national intelligence agency, MIT. However, sources have told the Observer that the police have been sidelined in a power struggle with president-elect Recep Tayyip Erdogan, whose circle has given responsibility for jihadists to MIT.
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Also, most of the blackmarket oil being sold by ISIS goes thru Turkey and they've done little to stop it. Almost all of the foreign jihadist have joined ISIS by crossing the Turkish border. Turkey is a mixed bag.
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"Turkey paved the way for us. Had Turkey not shown such understanding for us, the Islamic State would not be in its current place. It [Turkey] showed us affection. Large [numbers] of our mujahedeen received medical treatment in Turkey,” said the man, who was not identified. “We do not have the support of Saudi Arabia, but many Saudi families who believe in jihad do assist us. But anyhow, we will no longer need it, soon,” he said
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This post was edited on 10/2/14 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:56 pm to Big12fan
Interdasting.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 5:05 am to bhtigerfan
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Go frick yourself dude. Who the frick do you think you are, Henry Kissenger?
Posted on 10/3/14 at 5:51 am to Big12fan
Turkey has a huge identity crisis
Posted on 10/3/14 at 5:50 pm to Pilot Tiger
Well frick I guess not. Damn LINK 
Posted on 10/3/14 at 5:58 pm to TutHillTiger
The Turks are primarily interested in protecting their special forces at Suleyman Shah inside Syria (and ISIS/ISIL knows better than to provoke them by attacking it - they will just wave to the Turkish forces as they walk by) - that and helping to take out Assad.
This post was edited on 10/3/14 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 10/3/14 at 6:09 pm to FT
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This board was all for air involvement, as long as other nations were the ground troops. They all said there was no way Obama was going to make that work because he wasn't a leader and is incompetent. Now that that's beginning to take shape, you have to find some new angle to be upset about.
Dude, you're the one making the unsubstantiated conclusion that any Turkish military involvement is because of Obama's influence. Yet you blame others for doing precisely what you are actually doing, and they are actually not.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 6:40 pm to bhtigerfan
ISIS is just a pretext for the Ottomans. Turks are more worried about an Independent Kurdistan than they are ISIS.
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