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re: Trying to stop child trafficking is now "Qanon-adjacent" and "paranoid"

Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:11 pm to
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Can't prove a negative

Like how does a movie finds itself being labeled "Qanon-adjacent" even though it explicitly DOES NOT invoke Q, or nah?
This post was edited on 7/10/23 at 3:14 pm
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:11 pm to
Buying a ticket.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:12 pm to
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I imagine we will keep seeing forms of "are they really trying to silence this movie?" threads for weeks on here.
TDPT is big on martyrdom.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:13 pm to
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I guarantee

1) Hank has not seen the movie
2) Hank doesnt know what the movie is about
3) Hanks repeating progressive talking points yet again.

So Hank is ignorant and shite flinging.

It's 2,000 Mules all over again. Hank knows what that angry dude Rachel Maddow tells him about it, so it gets repeated as fact.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464952 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:17 pm to
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And you are arguing it is 100% not happening

I've said it's not based on evidence that we have today.

quote:

Why are you right

I believe the evidence and study is on my side.

quote:

But they are wrong?

I don't think they've provided much, if any, credible evidence.

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you need to look into the Pearl High School shooting. Some of those involved in it have testified and stated they absolutely were involved in Satanism

I have already addressed this multiple times. Scale matters (and I've posted that specifically). Richard Ramirez also claimed he was Satanic. Small groups of "Satanists" (the occult type) do exist. Some have done horrible things. But they're isolated events not part of a wider organization (which is important for SRA, generally).

You also cited an example of the Satanic Panic, where actual evidence of Satanism was not exactly available (hence why the conspiracy charges were dropped). That is the kind of shite that scares me about the proliferation of this mythology again: innocent people will be arrested, and some convicted, off bullshite.

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Yet you claim none of that ever happened.

And there you go with a straw man. You were doing so wel, too.

Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:18 pm to
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It's 2,000 Mules all over again. Hank knows what that angry dude Rachel Maddow tells him about it, so it gets repeated as fact.
Please link any post in which I expressed any opinion at all about 2000 Mules. (psssst, you won't find one.)

Please link any post in which you think I have said anything negative about THIS film (Sound of Freedom). Again, you won't find one.

You are off your rocker, my friend.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:19 pm to
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Check into the Bohemian Grove and the Satanic statue of Baphomet.

Bohemian Grove burns an owl, not Baphomet.

And I used to have a version of Baphomet as my avatar for years on here

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:21 pm to
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I'd consider that kidnapping and rape. Judging by how rare you feel kidnapping is in association with underage brothels, I guess you'd regard it as false imprisonment instead?

No that would be kidnapping.

Again, that set of facts you presented is rare in the larger picture. You are fighting with the data that we have. Most pimps exerting some form of control over homeless teens don't have to do that, and the heat would be too great if the teen wanted to leave THAT bad. Look at the stats I posted about % of contact on the first night a teen runs away. There is a constant flowing supply of lower SES teens fleeing psychological and sexual abuse at home. That's why the only way we make a dent in this situation is by fixing that paradigm and severely decreasing psychological abuse, sexual abuse, and rejection of LGBTQ children. We do this and teen homelessness all but dies, and then there aren't teens to traffic.
This post was edited on 7/10/23 at 3:22 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:21 pm to
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That is the kind of shite that scares me about the proliferation of this mythology again: innocent people will be arrested, and some convicted, off bullshite.
Salem Witch Trials, meet the 21st Century.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:21 pm to
It's precisely the same playbook that your ideologically-retarded friends spewed with 2,000 Mules. Better?

You're not changing your mind. I'm not changing mine. You're welcome to attempt to perform a series of physical impossibilities as time passes.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464952 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:24 pm to
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Like how does a movie finds itself being labeled "Qanon-adjacent" even though it explicitly DOES NOT invoke Q, or nah?

Is the population promoting and celebrating this movie largely in overlap with the "critical thinkers" we were discussing earlier?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464952 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:25 pm to
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Salem Witch Trials, meet the 21st Century.

McMartin Preschool Trial, meets the 21st Century
Posted by mjthe
Virginia
Member since Oct 2020
6870 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:25 pm to
You should stop asking questions - you might turn into a Qanon-adjacent
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:28 pm to
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how does a movie finds itself being labeled "Qanon-adjacent" even though it explicitly DOES NOT invoke Q?
???

If a film were to be based upon the premise of a massive, secret, Jewish cabal that runs every government and every corporation in the world, is it exempt from referenced to ZOG theories just because it never utters the word "ZOG?"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464952 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:32 pm to
I have already told them, that "I'm just asking questions" multiple times

Also, their inability to be honest and answer simple questions does make them suspect.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:32 pm to
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quote:

Salem Witch Trials, meet the 21st Century.
McMartin Preschool Trial, meets the 21st Century
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:33 pm to
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Greetings. I never "discredited" the film. As I said in my very first post, I've not seen it. I simply challenged the OP on his silly premise.

I used the term discredited because of this comment, which if you'll excuse me, does indeed look like you're discrediting it.

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Interesting claim, given that the entire film is fear porn aimed at the preconceptions of the Right.


Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:38 pm to
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I used the term discredited because of this comment, which if you'll excuse me, does indeed look like you're discrediting it.
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Interesting claim, given that the entire film is fear porn aimed at the preconceptions of the Right.

Fair enough. I thought you were talking about evaluating it as a motion picture.

Yes, if the question is whether it is a good documentary, there are enough concerns about Ballard's veracity to think that the film is greatly embellished ... fear porn.

Again, that does not necessarily mean that it is a bad film ... as a film. Again, questioning the accuracy of THIS STORY (and Ballard's honesty) do not equate to some tacit approval of whatever child sex trafficking may exist.

JMO
This post was edited on 7/10/23 at 3:42 pm
Posted by mjthe
Virginia
Member since Oct 2020
6870 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:39 pm to
Just secured a 3:50 ticket tomorrow. I'll let you guys know how it goes
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:39 pm to
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I have already told them, that "I'm just asking questions" multiple times
The Socratic method seems to baffle some people.
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