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re: Trump's new label for Ron DeSantis, 'RINO globalist,' has roots in a far-right conspiracy.

Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:01 am to
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:01 am to
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As did DeSantis.



Never said Desantis didn't. Did you miss the part where I said Trump "has little room to talk"? Catch up to my argument.

Trump is not clean from connections to globalists and establishment politicos.

Right now Trump has my vote. He needs to refine his strategy for me to stay in that column. You don't need to like my opinion, but that is my opinion.

Some of Trump's biggest supporters wanted McCarthy out, Why is that?

You know why
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 11:13 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78146 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:03 am to
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Not one person in Florida was locked down.

Not one
Here goes the parsing.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:05 am to
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Here goes the parsing.


If you haven't read the order, I recommend that you do. I can also talk about the reality of how it was applied, thanks to how it was written.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
87071 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:07 am to
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Links already posted in this thread sir.


I posted one as well. The Keys Mayor locked down Monroe County and forced residents to prove they lived in the county. Going as far to get stickers for their car to renter post hurricane

Not Desantis.
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 11:08 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78146 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:09 am to
It reads much like Louisiana's.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:10 am to
So you didn't have a lockdown there, either? That's a good thing.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78146 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:11 am to
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So you didn't have a lockdown there, either? That's a good thing.
Like I said, parsing. You know better, I think.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297094 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:11 am to
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'RINO globalist,'


Is as stupid as "xenophobe and transphobic."

Trump is simply trying to copy progressive politics.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:12 am to
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Like I said, parsing. You know better, I think.



You're trying to make this something it isn't. Yes, I'm going to pick it apart.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:13 am to
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And Ron locked down his state.


He did this early like most elected officials that had zero reason to believe at the time that this was allegedly harmful. Still, years later, it's a hot topic.

In fairness as well, did DeSantis not petition the Florida Supreme Court to form a Statewide Grand Jury on the vaccines along with forming a public health integrity committee?

It's disingenuous to point to people doing what they thought was right in the heat of the moment when this was at its Apex.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78146 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:16 am to
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You're trying to make this something it isn't. Yes, I'm going to pick it apart


Good lord. Regarding Florida's Safer at Home Act...

quote:

What's NOT allowed

• You can't go to work unless you are providing essential service as defined by the order. Individuals are encouraged to work from home.

• You can't visit friends and family if there is no urgent need.


Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55382 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:18 am to
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Never said Desantis didn't. Did you miss the part where I said Trump "has little room to talk"? Catch up to my argument.


Catch up to mine.

The whole back and forth on this all started with a few trying to pin Covid on 1 person that they never wanted. See Displacedbuckeye, HHTM, Roger...etc

So long as we go down that path, these will always be raised.


quote:

Right now Trump has my vote. He needs to refine his strategy for me to stay in that column. You don't need to like my opinion, but that is my opinion.


Your opinion is yours. Why would I begrudge you of that?

quote:

Some of Trump's biggest supporters wanted McCarthy out? Why is that?



That's all well and good. He isn't my favorite because he leaves me with the impression that would sway with the wind.

That does not change the fact that Ryan, as Speaker of the house, refused to vote or voted against Trump more than 3 times.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297094 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:19 am to
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Not one person in Florida was locked down.

Not one
Here goes the parsing.


He's just obfuscating. Ignore his shite.

When he's wrong he'll just fixate on a word until the thread is 50 pages long.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:19 am to
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Good lord.


Indeed.

Link your source.

Thanks.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:20 am to
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When he's wrong


At some point, this might happen.

Other than that, shut the frick up Roger.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55382 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:20 am to
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I posted one as well. The Keys Mayor locked down Monroe County and forced residents to prove they lived in the county. Going as far to get stickers for their car to renter post hurricane

Not Desantis.




Just because a mayor did that, does NOT Mean that DeSantis did not give the same orders as all but 7 states did nor that he did not set up check points to enforce a MANDATORY 14 day quarantine.


Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78146 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:21 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297094 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:22 am to
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It's disingenuous to point to people doing what they thought was right in the heat of the moment when this was at its Apex.


Its all politics. Still, Ron is much better at it than Donny.

Ron will do some disappointing things, simply because he has the ability to wheel and deal unlike DJT.

I wasn't thrilled with his Covid reaction, but he still was less damaging than my right wing conservative Republican gov who was endorsed by Trump.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:23 am to
As expected, this is a news organization's interpretation. Let's stick to the actual order.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:24 am to
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set up check points to enforce a MANDATORY 14 day quarantine


Do you have any idea how those actually worked or who they applied to?

I know the answer, but I'm curious if you'll admit it.
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