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Trump's immigration plan a step in the right direction BUT fails in two important areas

Posted on 5/16/19 at 2:57 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 2:57 pm
I like Trump's emphasis on more merit based immigration. This is a starting point.

I would like to see two issues addressed:

1) add financial criteria such as a requirement of health insurance for green cards--no need to bring in folks to work if they are going to use our welfare too

2) dramatically increase green cards---we will probably actually issue less given the merit based criteria and MY proposed financial criteria but there really should be no limit if people are paying their way. We should make it easier for resident illegals who are already working on fake IDs to come clean if they meet the financial and merit criteria and are not on welfare.

This would be a great plan as we would encourage producing, tax paying folks to come and we would separate our the illegals already here who are not paying their way and are sucking on welfare while protecting those that are paying their way and contributing.

This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Zanzibaw
BR
Member since Jun 2016
2947 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 3:00 pm to
I'm so glad you're not in charge
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13085 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 3:01 pm to
Trump's plan is DOA and has ZERO shot at passing through Congress.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 3:02 pm to
you must want to let people come in on Trump's merit system alone so they get on welfare.
Posted by Zanzibaw
BR
Member since Jun 2016
2947 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 3:05 pm to
So that's the only two options? You're acting like as long as they can afford their own way we should have an unlimited amount to accept. Overpopulation is a problem no matter if everyone is paying their own way or not.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19197 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

I like Trump's emphasis on more merit based immigration. This is a starting point. I would like to see two issues addressed: 1) add financial criteria such as a requirement of health insurance for green cards--no need to bring in folks to work if they are going to use our welfare too 2) dramatically increase green cards---we will probably actually issue less given the merit based criteria and MY proposed financial criteria but there really should be no limit if people are paying their way. We should make it easier for resident illegals who are already working on fake IDs to come clean if they meet the financial and merit criteria and are not on welfare. This would be a great plan as we would encourage producing, tax paying folks to come and we would separate our the illegals already here who are not paying their way and are sucking on welfare while protecting those that are paying their way and contributing.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36048 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 3:14 pm to
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Overpopulation is a problem no matter if everyone is paying their own way or not.


Overpopulation of parasites is a problem. More productive citizens is not a problem. In fact more productive people will ease the burden on the productive people we currently have.
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 3:15 pm to
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We should make it easier for resident illegals who are already working on fake IDs to come clean if they meet the financial and merit criteria and are not on welfare. This would be a great plan as we would encourage producing, tax paying folks to come and we would separate our the illegals already here who are not paying their way and are sucking on welfare while protecting those that are paying their way and contributing.

Only if it's coupled with continued welfare ineligibility, because the temptation would be to load up on whatever welfare they could get, while working fewer hours.
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10268 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 3:16 pm to
Fails in another important aspect:


BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP FOR SPAWN OF ILLEGALS


**Should have brought up the 14th amendment needing review by the SCOTUS as to its applicability to illegals and their spawn at the time of its passing


THE CURRENT BASTARDIZATION WAS NOT THE INTENT
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Zanzibaw
BR
Member since Jun 2016
2947 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 3:18 pm to
Can we trade the financially stable and responsible green card holders for some of our own citizens that are on welfare? One in one out? If so I'm all for that.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 3:25 pm to
I would be too.

Certainly we would be isolating the dead beat immigrants and would have standing to deport them
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 3:27 pm to
Wrong. More productive people add to society.

I doubt seriously if you put the criteria I propose on the number of actual green cards that would be issued would not increase BUT if that is possible we should take advantage of it so our economy and society benefits.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49355 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 3:31 pm to
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We should make it easier for resident illegals who are already working on fake IDs



IBTariffman is all for cheap imports whether it's products or labor.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:45 pm to
You are very narrow minded and have no economic sense that I can detect.
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
11310 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

IBTariffman is all for cheap imports whether it's products or labor.



I love how union workers at US Steel mills have been getting raises from the tariffs. That must really drive him apeshit.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11809 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:47 pm to
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Trump's plan is DOA and has ZERO shot at passing through Congress.

Why?
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11809 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:49 pm to
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We should make it easier for resident illegals who are already working on fake IDs to come clean if they meet the financial and merit criteria and are not on welfare.

I think you buried the lede. This sounds like a major amnesty program (not that I disagree).
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:55 pm to
Some might call it that. In their naivety they believe we can round up all these people and deport them somewhere.

What it's been 10 or 12 years since the so called amnesty bill that would have made better and tighter immigration laws failed in Congress?? No one has proposed or passed anything better and the problem is worse than ever.

There is no need to even attempt to deport working, tax paying people who are not on welfare.

Why do it? It would be foolish and a waste of American time and money.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18861 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:55 pm to
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